17mm tires for Granite?

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I'm pretty new to the RC world. I recently bought two Granites to play around with my son. We like taking it off road in the woods, creek, and to a near by baseball field with the infield turns into thick mud.

I keep reading and seeing on YouTube where people recommend swapping the 14mm to 17mm wheels so there is wider variety of tires to choose from. I went ahead and ordered parts to extend the width so one of the trucks would have better stability, and just to have fun. Turns out, I have no idea where anyone is finding a 17mm mounted tire that will fit on the Granite. What am I missing?
 
I'm pretty new to the RC world. I recently bought two Granites to play around with my son. We like taking it off road in the woods, creek, and to a near by baseball field with the infield turns into thick mud.

I keep reading and seeing on YouTube where people recommend swapping the 14mm to 17mm wheels so there is wider variety of tires to choose from. I went ahead and ordered parts to extend the width so one of the trucks would have better stability, and just to have fun. Turns out, I have no idea where anyone is finding a 17mm mounted tire that will fit on the Granite. What am I missing?

You have to buy the Proline tires listed for the Granite then buy the hex adapters for the wheels.
I recommend the Proline Badland MX28 https://www.prolineracing.com/produ...tires-mounted-12mm-blk-raid-2/PRO1012510.html
Hex adapters https://www.prolineracing.com/product/1-10-6x30-to-17mm-hex-adapters/PRO633600.html
They also make aluminum hex adapters but they are $$ https://www.prolineracing.com/product/1-10-6x30-to-17mm-aluminum-hex-adapters/PRO633800.html
 
Proline Badlands MX28's are pretty popular. You'll need to convert the hexes to 17mm hexes.
 
Proline Badlands MX28's are pretty popular. You'll need to convert the hexes to 17mm hexes.
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You have to buy the Proline tires listed for the Granite then buy the hex adapters for the wheels.
I recommend the Proline Badland MX28 https://www.prolineracing.com/produ...tires-mounted-12mm-blk-raid-2/PRO1012510.html
Hex adapters https://www.prolineracing.com/product/1-10-6x30-to-17mm-hex-adapters/PRO633600.html
They also make aluminum hex adapters but they are $$ https://www.prolineracing.com/product/1-10-6x30-to-17mm-aluminum-hex-adapters/PRO633800.html
Ah, this finally makes sense. I didn't realize that piece of the wheel can be removed (and I'm only now understanding what the adapters are that I've seen mentioned before). Thanks for the help.

Out of curiosity, if I decide to install the longer A-arms for a wider base, would this also create enough space for a larger tire, or do I need to stick with the 1/10 scale tire?

Thanks again
 
Ah, this finally makes sense. I didn't realize that piece of the wheel can be removed (and I'm only now understanding what the adapters are that I've seen mentioned before). Thanks for the help.

Out of curiosity, if I decide to install the longer A-arms for a wider base, would this also create enough space for a larger tire, or do I need to stick with the 1/10 scale tire?

Thanks again
I would stick with 1/10 scale tires, 1/8ths scale tires can be a bit much for the drivetrain.
 
You have to buy the Proline tires listed for the Granite then buy the hex adapters for the wheels.
I recommend the Proline Badland MX28 https://www.prolineracing.com/produ...tires-mounted-12mm-blk-raid-2/PRO1012510.html
Hex adapters https://www.prolineracing.com/product/1-10-6x30-to-17mm-hex-adapters/PRO633600.html
They also make aluminum hex adapters but they are $$ https://www.prolineracing.com/product/1-10-6x30-to-17mm-aluminum-hex-adapters/PRO633800.html
Trying to buy these Proline Badlands on Amazon and there is only one set left. I'm assuming there is a big enough difference between the mounted ones and the belted ones that I should wait for mounted (and not get belted, which are available now)? Thanks again
 
you can upgrade to 17mm hexes and use the proline plastic adapters, the 17mm aluminum adapters or ditch the hexes entirely and use the M2c adapters to proline 6x30 - https://m2cracing.net/arrma-vorteks...rock-granite-senton-with-6mm-axle-single.html
Thank you for the alternative option. Bear with me, if you will, I am brand new at this and all the terminology is confusing for me.

I ordered the 17mm hex (I think that's the right terminology). I also got other parts in case I want to eventually widen the stance with the longer A Arms.

Are you saying the plastic adapter is a totally different wheel, but same tire -- or it's the same wheel/tire but I wouldn't need the 17mm hex that I bought?

Sorry for asking something so basic, but I don't understand what this replaces and if this means I need to buy even more parts now. (Which would be fantastic since I just bought two new servos today, despite having no clue what they are, nor how to get them installed :LOL:)

Thank you
 
The proline wheels come with plastic adapters from 17mm to their 6-30 pattern “raid” wheels. You can also upgrade to aluminum. I would run the plastic ones and if you end up breaking one or running out of other things to spend money on then upgrade to the aluminum versions. The m2c ones I posted replace both the hexes and the adapter so it gets rid of one extra piece.
 
The proline wheels come with plastic adapters from 17mm to their 6-30 pattern “raid” wheels. You can also upgrade to aluminum. I would run the plastic ones and if you end up breaking one or running out of other things to spend money on then upgrade to the aluminum versions. The m2c ones I posted replace both the hexes and the adapter so it gets rid of one extra piece.
Great, so now I'll buy those tires to add to the pile of parts I'm accumulating. If I can ever figure out how to reconfigure all the $hit I unscrewed and disconnected when I tried fixing a broken a arm, I will be ready to add the new tires.

Semi related side note:
(I've noticed a whole in the YouTube market place for anyone of you pros looking to add content -- tons of videos out there showing how to disassemble on the front end of modifications, but I can't find any simple videos for beginners where they show the order of reconfiguration for new people like me. Super frustrating.)
you can upgrade to 17mm hexes and use the proline plastic adapters, the 17mm aluminum adapters or ditch the hexes entirely and use the M2c adapters to proline 6x30 - https://m2cracing.net/arrma-vorteks...rock-granite-senton-with-6mm-axle-single.html
I thought I was following, but I'm not sure how the link you sent helps me get the Badlands tires since the whole problem is that they are out of stock. I am an idiot and thought you were giving me a different way of buying the actual tires (which I thought came with this new adapter.). No one warned me how much effort would go into just looking for two trucks my son and I could run through mud and trails. Anyway, I've appreciated the help that's been offered
 
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Trying to buy these Proline Badlands on Amazon and there is only one set left. I'm assuming there is a big enough difference between the mounted ones and the belted ones that I should wait for mounted (and not get belted, which are available now)? Thanks again
They are all Premounted.:geek:
If I understood you correctly....
Premounted just means the tire is glued to the wheel already.;)
The adapters are separate and screw into place at the wheel's hub, if that is what you mean.
The adapters also have different Offset's. Spacing the wheel out or in, more or less. Something important to consider.
 
Glad to help. I went down the same rabbit hole recently after buying 3 trucks in the last month. I haven't pulled the trigger on new tires for any of them yet but will likely start amassing parts soon.
 
One word of warning about the MX28 tires, they are heavy. Plus you are also adding weight with the 17mm adaptors.This will stress the u-joints in the truck.

My MX2.8 on the older F11 wheels* are 7.5oz
My stock Fortress 2.8 - 6.2oz
Duratrax 2.8 Lockups - 5.7oz (My daily driver tire)
https://www.towerhobbies.com/product/lockup-mt-2.8-mounted-tires-black-14mm-hex-2/DTXC5252.html


Edit - I do really like the lock-ups. Great traction, they have lasted a long time, and they still have the mass to back flip the truck with ease on medium small jumps (but I am not running the BLX motor, but a Castle 1412 3200kv) They do balloon a bit more than the stock tires, which limits top speed to mid-40-ish.

* I am guessing that the newer Proline MX2.8s will weigh a bit more, as the newer replaceable hub and extra screws add mass to the rim.
The other option is to order Badlands with a 12mm hex and buy the additional adapters to go to 17mm. It costs more and you end up with extra parts but it solves the immediate problem https://www.amazon.com/Pro-line-Racing-6x30-17mm-Adapters/dp/B07MXRXQ79 and these https://www.amazon.com/Pro-line-Racing-Badlands-Black-PRO1012510/dp/B07N8M8Z81
Why buy the 17mm wheel adaptors, and then buy the 17mm hex adaptors for the truck? Just buy the Raid 14mm adaptors for the wheel and be done.
https://www.amazon.com/Pro-line-Rac...o+17mm+hex+adapters,toys-and-games,109&sr=1-1
Ah, this finally makes sense. I didn't realize that piece of the wheel can be removed (and I'm only now understanding what the adapters are that I've seen mentioned before). Thanks for the help.
Worth noting - I believe the Proline Raid wheels are the only wheels made with removable hubs... For all other brand wheels, you need to make sure you buy the correct hex size.
 
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One word of warning about the MX28 tires, they are heavy. Plus you are also adding weight with the 17mm adaptors.This will stress the u-joints in the truck.

My MX2.8 on the older F11 wheels* are 7.5oz
My stock Fortress 2.8 - 6.2oz
Duratrax 2.8 Lockups - 5.7oz (My daily driver tire)
https://www.towerhobbies.com/product/lockup-mt-2.8-mounted-tires-black-14mm-hex-2/DTXC5252.html


Edit - I do really like the lock-ups. Great traction, they have lasted a long time, and they still have the mass to back flip the truck with ease on medium small jumps (but I am not running the BLX motor, but a Castle 1412 3200kv) They do balloon a bit more than the stock tires, which limits top speed to mid-40-ish.

* I am guessing that the newer Proline MX2.8s will weigh a bit more, as the newer replaceable hub and extra screws add mass to the rim.

Why buy the 17mm wheel adaptors, and then buy the 17mm hex adaptors for the truck? Just buy the Raid 14mm adaptors for the wheel and be done.
https://www.amazon.com/Pro-line-Racing-Adapters-Wheels-PRO634700/dp/B07WCD5BCY/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2LVC14LOQ5N3S&keywords=Pro-line+Racing+1/10+6x30+to+14mm+Hex+Adapters&qid=1643836880&s=toys-and-games&sprefix=pro-line+racing+1/10+6x30+to+17mm+hex+adapters,toys-and-games,109&sr=1-1

Worth noting - I believe the Proline Raid wheels are the only wheels made with removable hubs... For all other brand wheels, you need to make sure you buy the correct hex size.
Thanks for all of this as well.

Here's the truth, I just keep buying things that I seem to be able to recognize a consensus that it's a good idea, or at least not terrible. The way I read that earlier post was that I could buy the Proline Badlands and put them on the Granite using the M2C adapter, or I could use the 12mm to 17mm adaptor tires/wheels combined with the 17mm hex I had already purchased.

Seems the only thing I'm doing is accumulating parts at this point, and hopefully some combination of all the crap I've ordered with be compatible.

Speaking of accumulating parts, I finally removed the broken stock a arm and replaced with RPMs. After hours trying to figure out how to put all the pieces back together I have about 4 or 5 screws left over. So I'll add the screws with no home to my collection and we'll see if they were all that necessary soon enough
 
Here's the truth, I just keep buying things that I seem to be able to recognize a consensus that it's a good idea, or at least not terrible.
Word of advice. Don't do this. Only upgrade when you have a specific goal. This forum recommends unending upgrades, but almost never asks what you want to accomplish. Not all recommendations will improve the way you drive, some may make things worse. I made the mistake of listening to too many consensus "upgrades". Many ended up being downgrades and I've gone back to stock.

But this forum is useful if you ask for upgrades for a specific purpose. So, before you upgrade. Why do you want different tires? What are you looking to improve? If you find yourself sliding and spinning the tires too much, MX28's will improve traction over the stock tires. I run MX28's. They are especially good if you run in loose dirt. But as Jerry Rigged pointed out, they are heavier, they will stress driveshafts more and make your RC overheat faster. Also, increased traction is not always a good thing. It will make you traction roll more when turning, especially on high traction surfaces like pavement or grass. If you are already rolling over too much, the MX28's will make it worse, the stock tires will slide turns more easily.
 
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I'm pretty new to the RC world. I recently bought two Granites to play around with my son. We like taking it off road in the woods, creek, and to a near by baseball field with the infield turns into thick mud.

I keep reading and seeing on YouTube where people recommend swapping the 14mm to 17mm wheels so there is wider variety of tires to choose from. I went ahead and ordered parts to extend the width so one of the trucks would have better stability, and just to have fun. Turns out, I have no idea where anyone is finding a 17mm mounted tire that will fit on the Granite. What am I missing?
The stock tires are nice for general fun bashing, jumping and even the skate park. And can get them pretty cheap from a parts breaker like jennysrc.com or even on Amazon around $27/pair.

For proline you can go to the website of Amazon is out. The badlands (2.8 non-belted are my favorites) are $40/pair and 14mm adapters are $10. No reason to go through the cost of 17mm hex upgrade unless you really want to.
 
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