Affordable 1/10 scale aluminium shock upgrade

[mrbelloso]

No idea. Will ask next time I visit them. The only thing i can say is that they are stiffer than the originals.

 

[mrbelloso]

What type of oil do you use on your shocks and to what level should they be filled?

 

[Unusual RC]

Depends if the shock has membranes, piggy bags or nothing (like the stock Arrma plastic shocks)

All have their own method for filling.

I use between 300 - 400 sct weight silicon shock oil. Default Arrma 1/10 is 350 sct

 

[FuryGuy]

Powerstroke shock info as requested.

The 606301 (REAR) are 102mm center to center extended, and 75mm compressed.

The 606300 (FRONT) are 88mm center to center extended, and 66mm compressed.

http://www.prolineracing.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Pro-Line-Shock-Interchange-Guide-TRAXXAS.pdf

 

[Unusual RC]

88mm is just too long. You might run into problems with the front steering when jumping (fully extended)

I am waiting for over 4 months now on the front Fastrax shocks and stiffer springs.
Really agonizing this wait. Cannot finalize the new BLX Mojave I have...

 

[FuryGuy]

Works great for me. Good luck.

 

[Unusual RC]

Works great for me. Good luck.

As I have started rebuilding my sons car with a brand new Fury BLX chassis (roller) anyway, I will have a good look in how much harm too long shocks might have. It would be great to have some other alternatives...

 

[Eek-the-Fox]

The problem with the G-Made is that is too wide for the front A arm

I am still waiting for an answer on the spring diameter for this one:

http://www.maxpowerrccars.com.au/t4...ale-all-terrain-scale-trucks-c25387black.html

Have anybody try the shocks from Yeah Racing, this is the link for the ones I think we could use on the back:

http://www.yeahracing.com/catalog/dp1007ti-alloy-100mm-damper-buggy-allinone-value-pack-p-1879.html

you ever hear back from maxpower rc on those shocks?

 

[Unusual RC]

Just was looking through Team Durango's parts, and found out the springs for the 2wd and 4wd 1/10 electric buggies are front 45mm and aft 65mm in length. 45mm exactly matches the front ones, the rears are a bit longer with 70mm.

Will investigate them further...

 

[Aflan]

Might this be something?.......

https://www.conrad.nl/nl/reely-110-...mm-4-stuks-235971.html?sc.ref=Product Details

 

[Unusual RC]

Since Ansmann got bankrupt Conrad featured no springs anymore.

These Absima's are exactly the same as the Fastrax for the front:

https://www.conrad.nl/nl/absima-110...rt-met-veren-chroom-75-mm-2-stuks-204020.html

I will ask my LHS to change the order to these ones!

Thanks Aflan!

And here for the rear:
https://www.conrad.nl/nl/absima-110...t-met-veren-chroom-108-mm-2-stuks-204022.html

 

[Aflan]

Your welcome URC...
But question; Shorter is less worse that longer?...

 

[Unusual RC]

Your welcome URC...
But question; Shorter is less worse that longer?...

Correct! These are only 3mm shorter than the original ones, and I suspect they come from the same factory as Fastrax got them from.
There is also a version of 77mm available at Conrad I found out, which has no ride height clips but threaded rings. I personally like the clips more.

I did not find any different grade springs for it, and as the Fastrax they are not big bore.

 

[Aflan]

I was thinking about giving this set a try...What do you guys think?...

https://www.conrad.nl/nl/absima-110...rt-met-veren-chroom-75-mm-2-stuks-204020.html
https://www.conrad.nl/nl/absima-110-hydraulische-schokdempers-aluminium-zwart-met-veren-chroom-96-mm-2-stuks-204021.html?sc.ref=Product Details
@Unusual RC BTW, both have clips


Thx for any input, suggestions or jokes...

 

[Unusual RC]

I was thinking about giving this set a try...What do you guys think?...

https://www.conrad.nl/nl/absima-110...rt-met-veren-chroom-75-mm-2-stuks-204020.html
https://www.conrad.nl/nl/absima-110-hydraulische-schokdempers-aluminium-zwart-met-veren-chroom-96-mm-2-stuks-204021.html?sc.ref=Product Details
@Unusual RC BTW, both have clips


Thx for any input, suggestions or jokes...

Clips is personal, does not matter much for the performance.
The 96mm (second link) is 10mm too short, since the "inbouwmaat" (translates as pitch-distance) is 85mm instead of 95mm.
If you want to lower your car that is a solution, if not I would suggest the 95mm version instead I linked above.

Did you find any other grade springs?

 

[Aflan]

Going to look tomorrow more thoroughly...I love my job, really, I do...Its just al those crazy people that, sometimes, makes it difficult...

 

[Unusual RC]

I changed my order for the fastrax front shocks into the Absima versions! Hopefully they will arrive soon!

@ Aflan: I was @ work too

 

[Aflan]

@Unusual RC ,But you don't work with crazy people...

And knowing Conrad I suspect they have them in stock...Otherwise they wouldn't be featured on the website...And I have seen there warehouse in Germany...It could fit the Amzone.de several times...Its F******G Huge...

 

[poombah]

What's the issue with the stock shocks that warrants the upgrade?

Anyone found spring options for stock shocks at all?

 

[Unusual RC]

These Fastrax/Absima springs do fit the Arrma stock shocks, as many other springs.

The stock shocks are progressive: during the full travel in of the shock the resistance is not linear, which it should.
Also most caps will sooner or later start to leak oil.
Also the shock cylinders lack a membrane to compensate the body volume of the shock rod when it travels in. This means there should always be some air in it to not create a fluid lock (fluids are not compressible, gasses are).
In order to prevent the air to mix with the oil there should be a membrane.

So to conclude there are three reasons for upgrading:

1. Better shocks give better handling
2. For bashing stiffer shocks and springs are wanted to prevent bottoming out
3. Be able to change different springs to accommodate different tracks