Typhon Beating the heat!

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Next 5 months in Florida will be undoubtedly brutal, however I will continue to bash my typhon because I need my fix. Typhon 3s v3. Stock motors, esc, heatsink and fans. Pls educate me. Does esc. shut down, thus shutting down motor when overheated? Does this damage or strain motor when this happens? Should I ditch motor heatsink and upgrade fans? Buy a temp gun? Not sure what action to take if any. Pockets aren't deep since I'm retired and would prefer to keep cost's down. I know these motors are under 40 bucks at Jennys if I toast them. Maybe I'm over thinking the whole thing, just trying to be proactive in keeping my rigs functioning. Sure welcome any advice! Thanks!
 
You pretty much answered your question. You were paying attention. Good question, and for many others.

> Use a Fan "Mount" and fan...and not a Heat sink.
> Get a temp gun. A given.
Dam, since you are in FL dude.:LOL:
> ESC when overheated will go to Thermal shut down, rig will stop in its tracks when it does. Internal temp ESC threshhold is 212F and shuts down. Externally that is usually 160F+ external temps read with any Temp gun. The ESC light will Flash GREEN steadily until it cools down and the ESC will re-initialize. Let it sit there and allow the fans to do their job. Confirm with you temp gun. Then bash on. Usually does it.. Consider Cool downs after checking motor temps
The motor is on its own, It can read Externally, well over 150F-200+F. NO Good.. Have a temp gun in hand to check things after a few minutes. A motor cannot sustain temps of 212F for long. Internally, the Armature will delaminate, come apart and lock up. The Neodymium Magnets will weaken considerably from the 212F+ heat as well. A well maintained/lubed motor can sustain 150-160F temps no problem. Keep it there. That is your Max. temp target objective. Any higher and you are on your $own$ there.
>Might just have to gear down with a smaller Pinion for summer heat. Commonly done, if you can't get Temps under control with a fan.
>Also, turning the ESC's Punch setting down will help control heat, lipo will stay cooler also. As well as the ESC and motor. A win win 99% of the time.
>Clean and Lube the motor's BB's frequently with a High temp synthetic oil. Heat will destroy the BB's . Consider Ceramic Motor Specific BB's when the stocker crap BB's do wear out. Just catch them in time before they explode on you. Or the Armature can get destroyed. Ceramics will run cooler. Most any BLX Motor can and should last for many many years if you are on top of them, maintenance wise. No need to keep paying $40.00 because it is abused beyond use.
> Consider an Upgrade ESC fan. Mod the ESC by removing the ESC's shroud altogether. Just place an upgrade High Speed Fan directly onto the ESC's Heatsink. How I fly. Works well. Much cooler IMHO.
My temp gun doesn't lie.
A Temp gun is your friend, if Temps really matter to you and your wallet also.:cool:
 
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Steve, you are an RC Google godess. Thank you for all that! I believe I may start with the motor fans minus the heatsink. Can you or anyone recommend a fan and holder? Dual fans for that little 3200 kv or is that over kill? Will turn punch settings down to 1 from 3. Never pulled apart a motor but looks pretty elementary and I'm quite handy so probably enjoy it. Thank you!
Honestly, I didn't read "heat" when I saw the title. Had to see what you were up to @Johnny b!!🤣
That's " heat" with an "H" ........put your darn glasses on! :rolleyes: :LOL:
 
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If you can feasibly fit 2 fans, absolutely do it..
No such thing as too many.(y) Having 2, also affords some failsafe redundency. Fans can and will fail at some point. I eat 3-4 fans a year roughly. I have many rigs here. Just Normally happens with bashing use.
Use 40mm fans, and no smaller.(y) 40 x 40 x 10mm are good for your motor setup. I am running (2) 40 x 40 20mm PC fans ( taller) , when I can fit them. Depending on the rig.
(28CFMs) with some of my 6s motors (need to solder on the appropriate JR/Futaba connectors, being a PC Type fan.)

Some ideas:

https://www.amazon.com/Wathai-40mm-Bearing-Brushless-Cooling/dp/B07Q2K3WYM/ref=sr_1_6?crid=1KZVYJAAA3H31&keywords=Fan+40x40+x20&qid=1683829042&sprefix=fan+40x40+x20,aps,95&sr=8-6&th=1
What I prefer, above, with my 6s motors. 20 mm tall. (28 CFM's). Seem to have more durable blades. And more air flow at lower RPM's.

https://www.amazon.com/HobbyStar-Ad...eywords=Fan+mounting+RC&qid=1683827663&sr=8-3

https://www.amazon.com/Surpass-Hobb...ywords=Fan+mounting+RC&qid=1683827829&sr=8-22

https://www.amazon.com/16000RPM-Alu...ywords=Fan+mounting+RC&qid=1683827829&sr=8-36

https://www.amazon.com/Easycargo-Grill-Guard-Screws-4-Pack/dp/B07JM67CZ5/ref=sr_1_7?crid=1GKJPOYZM3GEP&keywords=Fan+finger+guard+40mm&qid=1683828152&sprefix=fan+finger+guard+40mm,aps,86&sr=8-7
The above are the best fans guards IMHO. Inexpensive and the least "Restrictive" with air flow. I Tried the rest. Need this for sure. With any fan.

For the ESC , just match up a same size replacement Upgrade fan. Usually are 30mm or 35mm and 10mm tall fans , depending on the ESC model. Alloy framed fans are usually best. Secure the wires well for both ESC and Motor fans. The wires are delicate and can pull out of the fans when bashing hard.
Food for thought.
:cool:
 
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It looks like you overshot your drive by a couple of states.
Cooler in NC? Never been there.
 
40 yrs in Michigan...was shooting for NC....someday.
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If you can feasibly fit 2 fans, absolutely do it..
No such thing as too many.(y) Having 2, also affords some failsafe redundency. Fans can and will fail at some point. I eat 3-4 fans a year roughly. I have many rigs here. Just Normally happens with bashing use.
Use 40mm fans, and no smaller.(y) 40 x 40 x 10mm are good for your motor setup. I am running (2) 40 x 40 20mm PC fans ( taller) , when I can fit them. Depending on the rig.
(28CFMs) with some of my 6s motors (need to solder on the appropriate JR/Futaba connectors, being a PC Type fan.)

Some ideas:

https://www.amazon.com/Wathai-40mm-Bearing-Brushless-Cooling/dp/B07Q2K3WYM/ref=sr_1_6?crid=1KZVYJAAA3H31&keywords=Fan+40x40+x20&qid=1683829042&sprefix=fan+40x40+x20,aps,95&sr=8-6&th=1
What I prefer, above, with my 6s motors. 20 mm tall. (28 CFM's). Seem to have more durable blades. And more air flow at lower RPM's.

https://www.amazon.com/HobbyStar-Ad...eywords=Fan+mounting+RC&qid=1683827663&sr=8-3

https://www.amazon.com/Surpass-Hobb...ywords=Fan+mounting+RC&qid=1683827829&sr=8-22

https://www.amazon.com/16000RPM-Alu...ywords=Fan+mounting+RC&qid=1683827829&sr=8-36

https://www.amazon.com/Easycargo-Grill-Guard-Screws-4-Pack/dp/B07JM67CZ5/ref=sr_1_7?crid=1GKJPOYZM3GEP&keywords=Fan+finger+guard+40mm&qid=1683828152&sprefix=fan+finger+guard+40mm,aps,86&sr=8-7
The above are the best fans guards IMHO. Inexpensive and the least "Restrictive" with air flow. I Tried the rest. Need this for sure. With any fan.

For the ESC , just match up a same size replacement Upgrade fan. Usually are 30mm or 35mm and 10mm tall fans , depending on the ESC model. Alloy framed fans are usually best. Secure the wires well for both ESC and Motor fans. The wires are delicate and can pull out of the fans when bashing hard.
Food for thought.
:cool:
Some great ideas! Thank you for taking the time to reference all that! Much appreciated Steve!🤝
It looks like you overshot your drive by a couple of states.
Cooler in NC? Never been there.
Still gets warm but shorter summer season. They have 4 seasons but only average about 4 inches of snow annually. Up in the mountains..west side is cooler.
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: That's about right if we don't get these clowns out of Washington!
 
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YW.:cool:
I can rattle this stuff off quick anyway. I try to help and share when I can.. What works and doesn't.
Learn from my $mistakes$.
:)
 
YW.:cool:
I can rattle this stuff off quick anyway. I try to help and share when I can.. What works and doesn't.
Learn from my $mistakes$.
:)
And especially my parents! Thanks again!
 
Next 5 months in Florida will be undoubtedly brutal, however I will continue to bash my typhon because I need my fix. Typhon 3s v3. Stock motors, esc, heatsink and fans. Pls educate me. Does esc. shut down, thus shutting down motor when overheated? Does this damage or strain motor when this happens? Should I ditch motor heatsink and upgrade fans? Buy a temp gun? Not sure what action to take if any. Pockets aren't deep since I'm retired and would prefer to keep cost's down. I know these motors are under 40 bucks at Jennys if I toast them. Maybe I'm over thinking the whole thing, just trying to be proactive in keeping my rigs functioning. Sure welcome any advice! Thanks!

You are a bit hotter than me in Memphis....but the humidity from your Gulf and this DAMN Mississippi river keeps it HOT in Memphis too...Oven cannot breathe!

Like you, I still bash!

For my Typhon, I went with the older BLX motor 2050kv with the ribs to cool it better with a Powerhobby mount and 40mm fan. It fits under the body perfectly.

Seeing that it is hot and the ESC shutting off does not tell me that the motor could be at 200F + already before the ESC cutoff, I added a temp gauge so that on a drive-by, I can see the temps of both. No, it is not exact, but I see enough to know when it is too hot if I need to stop. $10 off Amazon and work and soldering to add connections

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