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Bombproof shock rod ends?!?!

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Snoprosledneck88, Jun 5, 2018.

  1. Mr.Duke

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    The 2018 Outcast with 4mm shock shafts use the same rod ends as the Nero (#AR330338)

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    Older Outcast using the 3.5mm shock shafts use part# AR330203

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    I'm currently using Tenko part# TKR6140B

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    AR330338 are the shock rod ends that are used on the Outcast/Talion/Kraton/Senton & Typhon. I gather AR330203 are the Nero shock ends? However if you say the Nero uses the same as the Outcast and other Arrma 1/8 scale (AR330338?), than what Arrma RC is AR330203 actually made for, even if it fits 4mm shaft of Outcast/Kraton/Talion, etc?
     
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    AR330203 are used on older models with the 3.5mm shock shafts
    All the newer version with 4mm shock shafts (including the Nero) use AR330338
     
  4. Snoprosledneck88

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    Tekno ends are not pictured in the first post. The two posted are the new 4mm outcast ends vs the 3.5mm outcast ends. I was showing the 3.5 ends are more HD.
     
  5. Iamtheoutcast

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    I use ar330409 20180316_003123.jpg
     
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    ok thanks everyone, as it did not seem as clear earlier. I think I have it now & it looks like there are 4 options to use on the V3 shock ends (if in fact the 3.5mm shaft ends fit?)

    AR330203 - older shock ends used on V1/V2 Arrma's; Talion/Kraton/Outcast, etc (3.5mm shaft)

    AR330338 - newer shock ends used on V3 Arrma's including the Nero (4mm shock shaft)

    AR330409 - for 4mm shock shaft, and can be used on all newer V3 Arrma 1/8 scale. Anyone know what Arrma RC this is made for & wonder why does Arrma not offer this part in their options list?

    TKR6140B - Tekno 4mm rod ends (for 4mm shaft)

    Snoprosledneck88; Surprised to hear the older 3.5mm shock shaft ends (AR330203) are more HD looking than the newer 4mm shock shaft ends (AR330338), and sounds like Arrma did not plan that very well when they upgraded their V3 shocks?

    It also sounds like AR330409 are the most HD and thickest of the 4, if you can get them in stock?

    William, I'm confused, as it now sounds like you are not using an aluminum spacer like the others have on the shock rod ends, as I see Traxxas part 5529 does include the proper balls that allow the shock ends to pivot at the bottom?
     
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    I use the 5529 in my eyelets but they r the same concept. This is how my ends look 20180209_163451.jpg
     
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    Do you have a pic of the other side, with no flange? The Traxxas 5529 hollow balls I see look like they are 3x7mm, but no length provided in specs, as compared to Mr.Duke who used a 3x6.5x6.5mm aluminum spacer.

    These Arrma balls look the correct size & should work well (1 is in stock also):
    https://www.amainhobbies.com/arrma-3x6.8x6.3mm-ball-2-ara340075/p409531
    https://www.amainhobbies.com/arrma-3x6.8x6.3mm-shock-ball-4-ara330206/p409477

    These Tekno pivot balls also look the correct size:
    https://www.amainhobbies.com/tekno-rc-aluminum-6.8mm-pivot-ball-set-4-tkr5049a/p231724

    Some other possible 6mm ball choices (O.D. diameter maybe a bit small):
    https://www.amainhobbies.com/hb-racing-6mm-light-weight-aluminum-ball-4-hbs67199/p145889
    https://www.amainhobbies.com/yokomo-6mm-aluminum-pivot-ball-set-4-yokr12-15a/p242235

    Some more possible choices (not sure of sizes though)?
    https://www.amainhobbies.com/team-durango-aluminum-atype-pivot-ball-set-2-tdr330182

    https://www.amainhobbies.com/sworkz-aluminum-s350-series-shock-ball-stud-4-swx-330134a/p438226
    https://www.amainhobbies.com/yokomo-aluminum-hard-coated-shock-end-ball-4-yokys-6bh/p242260
    https://www.amainhobbies.com/sworkz...uspension-arm-ball-stud-4-swx-330125a/p438224
    https://www.amainhobbies.com/hb-rac...per-suspension-fixing-ball-4-hbs67205/p145816

    I should also mention, Team Losi & sworkz use 4mm shock shafts, so both their shock ends & balls may work.
     
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    In regards to your question about the other side of the rod end its identical to the front side. Ar330409 is a optional part on the big rock the fazon and the nero. They are way beefier then the stock arrma ends. On the left are the 409s and the right is a stock arrma end. 20180611_060320.jpg 20180611_060359.jpg

    The optional ends will fit on all of the 2018 8th scales
     
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    Thanks for the good info, as now it makes sense, AR330409 is an optional part for the Nero/Big Rock & Fazon. Yes, they're definitely beefy and a big difference in size & thickness compared to stock, & look almost the exact same length. Very nice, probably the best upgrade for shock ends that I've seen yet.

    The reason I asked for a pic of the other side, is Traxxas #5529 hollow balls that you used in your AR330409 shock end upgrade, look different on each side (one side looks like it has a bigger flange). They are a good price and look like polished steel. Here is a link to Traxxas #5529, to see what I mean:
    https://traxxas.com/products/parts/5529
     
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    I didn't use the hollow balls. I used the thickest shims that also come In the 5529. I pressed them into the eyelets after soaking in wd40 for a night to allow the plastic to stretch a little bit.
     
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