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The problem with those tires is they were meant to be run on 6s power.
Yes, that's what I was worried about. Traction on dirt was amazing until the un-glued. What tires and wheels are recommended for general fooling around?
 

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Yes, that's what I was worried about. Traction on dirt was amazing until the un-glued. What tires and wheels are recommended for general fooling around?
I would say either Proline 3.8 Badlands(not the MX3.8) Proline Shockwaves or Dboots Backflips, the Backflips are a bit on the larger size though. No matter what you buy they will ballon on 6s though.
 

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The backflips sound really good from what I've read. I'll see if I can find an affordable set of those. I'm also thinking of getting some Tekno orange springs since I'm finding that the front springs seem too soft in my opinion.
 

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The backflips sound really good from what I've read. I'll see if I can find an affordable set of those. I'm also thinking of getting some Tekno orange springs since I'm finding that the front springs seem too soft in my opinion.
Go with V3/V4 Kraton springs, they are longer and stiffer than the Teknos.
 

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Also the Talion tyres are great, they aren't stunt tyres though you can still do a back flip with them, they don't bring the car around in the air like the backflips do. The tyres you're running are great on a track, but not for a high speed run.
 

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Alrighty! So I received my new dBoots Backflip tires. They look really good and are HUGE. I'm excited to run them, but of course nothing is ever easy.

I bolted them onto my v1 Talion and found that they don't rotate at all. The hexes on the new wheels are deeper than the hexes on the truck so the hub on the wheel rubs against the axle carrier. I did some searching around and I guess there are two options. One is to grind down the hubs on the wheels so the hexes aren't so deep. I'm not a fan of that approach really but it would be easy. Option two is to replace the hexes on the truck with Kraton hexes from what I've heard. What I'm not sure of is what other parts I need to make the Kraton hubs fit my truck. Thoughts?

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That's a pain, how much slack is in the axle? If you were to remove the axle hex, put some shims between the outer bearing and the red hex, would that give you the clearance you need?

Otherwise Jenny's RC has a set of hubs, but is it the axle hex that is to too narrow?
If you change them I don't know if you will need all this?

https://jennysrc.com/products/arrma-kraton-6s-blx-driveshafts-front-rear-center-universal-cvd-ar106040?variant=19993710952502

https://jennysrc.com/collections/arrma-kraton-v4/products/arrma-kraton-6s-blx-17mm-hex-hubs-16-5mm-adaptors-wheel-red-nuts-ar106029

https://jennysrc.com/collections/arrma-kraton-v4/products/arrma-kraton-6s-blx-hubs-bearings-front-rear-uprights-blocks-ar106018
 

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Wow! That's a new one on me! I didn't know there was a difference in the wheels. To use the Kraton hex's you also need the Kraton axle parts. I'd wait and keep checking Jennys for the whole axle package. Cheaper. Others will chiome in as to what other models use the same stuff.
AR310591 2 each
AR310590 2 each

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ARRMA-AR310591-Wheel-Axle-8x45mm-Kraton-2/232295904138?epid=1237650681&hash=item3615ea338a:g:ZrAAAOSwVgZZut-A:sc:USPSFirstClass!34143!US!-1
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-ARRMA-Kraton-CVD-Axle-8x44-5mm-2-AR310590/322734761456?epid=1534380477&hash=item4b247da5f0:g:XvEAAOSw~4NZtobl:sc:USPSFirstClass!34143!US!-1
Humm late to the party I am, as usual..... Ha!
 

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Wow! That's a new one on me! I didn't know there was a difference in the wheels. To use the Kraton hex's you also need the Kraton axle parts. I'd wait and keep checking Jennys for the whole axle package. Cheaper. Others will chiome in as to what other models use the same stuff.
AR310591 2 each
AR310590 2 each

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ARRMA-AR310591-Wheel-Axle-8x45mm-Kraton-2/232295904138?epid=1237650681&hash=item3615ea338a:g:ZrAAAOSwVgZZut-A:sc:USPSFirstClass!34143!US!-1
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-ARRMA-Kraton-CVD-Axle-8x44-5mm-2-AR310590/322734761456?epid=1534380477&hash=item4b247da5f0:g:XvEAAOSw~4NZtobl:sc:USPSFirstClass!34143!US!-1
Humm late to the party I am, as usual..... Ha!
I can run Minokawas on my Talion, but they have a thin wheel hex, the Backflips have a deep hex for strength. I must try and see if the Backflips will fit the V3 Talion?
 

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That's a pain, how much slack is in the axle? If you were to remove the axle hex, put some shims between the outer bearing and the red hex, would that give you the clearance you need?

Otherwise Jenny's RC has a set of hubs, but is it the axle hex that is to too narrow?
If you change them I don't know if you will need all this?

https://jennysrc.com/products/arrma-kraton-6s-blx-driveshafts-front-rear-center-universal-cvd-ar106040?variant=19993710952502

https://jennysrc.com/collections/arrma-kraton-v4/products/arrma-kraton-6s-blx-17mm-hex-hubs-16-5mm-adaptors-wheel-red-nuts-ar106029

https://jennysrc.com/collections/arrma-kraton-v4/products/arrma-kraton-6s-blx-hubs-bearings-front-rear-uprights-blocks-ar106018
I will tear apart the axle carriers and check since I didn't know that was a possible option. I feel like I only need 1 or 2 mm of clearance. Thanks for the links!

Wow! That's a new one on me! I didn't know there was a difference in the wheels. To use the Kraton hex's you also need the Kraton axle parts. I'd wait and keep checking Jennys for the whole axle package. Cheaper. Others will chiome in as to what other models use the same stuff.
AR310591 2 each
AR310590 2 each

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ARRMA-AR310591-Wheel-Axle-8x45mm-Kraton-2/232295904138?epid=1237650681&hash=item3615ea338a:g:ZrAAAOSwVgZZut-A:sc:USPSFirstClass!34143!US!-1
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-ARRMA-Kraton-CVD-Axle-8x44-5mm-2-AR310590/322734761456?epid=1534380477&hash=item4b247da5f0:g:XvEAAOSw~4NZtobl:sc:USPSFirstClass!34143!US!-1
Humm late to the party I am, as usual..... Ha!
Yeah, I was pretty surprised as well! I'll watch Jenny's if it turns out I need to replace a bunch of parts.
 

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I use these(below, but any similar thickness shims will work) to shim the axles if there is too much play. I also use them in my diffs to tighten the mesh. I started using them instead of the large shim on the outside of the bearing arms put them on the inside of the bearing. Hopefully they might give you the clearance you need for your wheels though? https://plaig.com.au/product/shims-8x10-0-2mm-thickness-packs-of-10/
 
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