Limitless Can’t get chassis screws off motor mount

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Got one of em buggers off, the rest won’t budge even after 30 seconds torching. Afraid I’ll break the screw or strip it. Suggestions?

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Got one of em buggers off, the rest won’t budge even after 30 seconds torching. Afraid I’ll break the screw or strip it. Suggestions?

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Need to hold the torch on the screw for Much longer than that to have the heat do its thing...
 
Got one of em buggers off, the rest won’t budge even after 30 seconds torching. Afraid I’ll break the screw or strip it. Suggestions?

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I’m hesitant to recommend this for fear dummies will try it and make their day significantly longer, but…
If you have a good speed tip, and an impact driver/drill, then heat the living snot out of it and then hit it with the impact drill. Works every time for me, but those tools and techniques are to be used by professional RC’ers only. And I know you’re indeed one of those. 😊
 
Agreed, more heat for longer... If you're afraid of cooking the anodize on the chassis use a high power soldering iron.. once that heat gets to the loctite it won't be that difficult to turn... If it is, you need longer heat.. 👍
 
Could drill the center of the FHCS with a 3.5mm-4mm drill till the flat head will pop off. Then remove the threaded leftover with vise grips once the mount is off the chassis in a vise.
 
Thank you team!

I heated it up some more. I then set my power driver (with MIP tip) to max and gave it a gentle push. Thankfully the screw budged (with a loud crack!) and that was all it took. Worked on all 4 stubborn screws. 😅

Life moves on 🙃
 
I heated it up some more. I then set my power driver (with MIP tip) to max and gave it a gentle push. Thankfully the screw budged (with a loud crack!) and that was all it took. Worked on all 4 stubborn screws. 😅

Yep, if the temp reads 100+ on the hardware it’s soft enough to crack blue 242/243. Good bit engagement and send it on its way low rpm/high torque.

If the hex key isn’t bendin’, you’re just pretendin’…
 
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Just my personal experience.
Sometimes, it's just tight AF...nothing to do with the thread locker.

Put some leverage into it. NO FEAR!

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Be careful though. I put a 4 ft pipe on the end of my ratchet to loosen a bolt and fell out of my trailer against the garage wall. Girl friends son thought I was dead.
 
Be careful though. I put a 4 ft pipe on the end of my ratchet to loosen a bolt and fell out of my trailer against the garage wall. Girl friends son thought I was dead.
Poor ratchet.
Get yourself a breaker bar.


Oh and be careful
 
With Arrmas special blend of "blue 242", as Jason claims they use, you have to heat those screws up for at least a couple of minutes before that crap starts to melt. Jason can sit there and claim all day long that stuff is only blue 242 but as we all know that is complete bs as it does not take 2 minutes of heat to remove blue 242 thread lock. It's either red or that urine color thread glue that I saw them using in the WL Toys factory tour video.
 
Got one of em buggers off, the rest won’t budge even after 30 seconds torching. Afraid I’ll break the screw or strip it. Suggestions?

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The BEST way:
Socket wrench Hex bits. Wiha makes great quality METRIC hex bits available for both 1/4” and 3/8” sockets. If you own a manual or digital torque socket wrench, they ensure how tight all the chassis screws are torqued in an even distribution. Using a socket wrench, you’ll be able to apply much more torque vs a typical MIP Hex driver. Additionally, with a socket bit, you can tap the bit into the screw’s hex pattern to ensure you have the bit as far and straight as possible before using the wrench to loosen the screw.

Next best way:

Standalone “L” or stubby “T” Hex tools. Again, Wiha makes quality ones. Use the short side into the screw’s hex pattern so that you can use the long arm of the tool to apply steady force to loosen the bit.

If those are not an option:
A straight end hex driver like MIP thorp hex driver. Just don’t over do it as these tools are not meant for serious torque applications and the driver will snap pretty quick because of the long reach.

Just don’t do this:
Ball-end bits: they just don’t have the “bite” and are weak at the tapered-neck of the ball-end.

And never do this:
Speed bits in a powered driver. Don’t get me wrong here, I use a powered driver and 1/4” MIP bits all the time, but never to remove a stubborn screw in a chassis or other aluminum part. I also keep the drag on the lowest setting, then use my hex driver or socket bits when it needs to be really tightened down.
 
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The BEST way:
Socket wrench Hex bits. Wiha makes great quality METRIC hex bits available for both 1/4” and 3/8” sockets. If you own a manual or digital torque socket wrench, they ensure how tight all the chassis screws are torqued in an even distribution. Using a socket wrench, you’ll be able to apply much more torque vs a typical MIP Hex driver. Additionally, with a socket bit, you can tap the bit into the screw’s hex pattern to ensure you have the bit as far and straight as possible before using the wrench to loosen the screw.

Next best way:

Standalone “L” or stubby “T” Hex tools. Again, Wiha makes quality ones. Use the short side into the screw’s hex pattern so that you can use the long arm of the tool to apply steady force to loosen the bit.

If those are not an option:
A straight end hex driver like MIP thorp hex driver. Just don’t over do it as these tools are not meant for serious torque applications and the driver will snap pretty because of the long reach.

Just don’t do this:
Ball-end bits: they just don’t have the “bite” and are weak at the tapered-neck of the ball-end.

And never do this:
Speed bits in a powered driver. Don’t get me wrong here, I use a powered driver and 1/4” MIP bits all the time, but never to remove a stubborn screw in a chassis or other aluminum part. I also keep the drag on the lowest setting, then use my hex driver or socket bits when it needs to be really tightened down.
And..heat.
 
And..heat.

If the hardware female and male driver are adequate, blue thread lock should not require heat to remove. Red is a much harder/tougher bond cure at room temperatures.
 
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