well I ended up surprising my son with a granite 4x4 tonight. He was pretty excited to say the lease. Nice upgrade over the rustler he has been beating around. I haven’t gotten to drive it yet but it seemed to do pretty well. Decent speed on 2s and it really brought out his driving skills. Seems to be a little battery hungry but his venom pack may be getting weak. He sent it a lot off of a smaller ramp we have made and it held up well. Better than the rustler did at first. Hope it stays together for a while before I gotta start working on it. Maybe throw a brushless kit in it once Christmas comes.