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Getting ready to pull the trigger on an icharger 4010. I know I will need a 24v power supply for it, just not 100% sure what I need to use the full potential off the 4010. I’m hoping this will be the last charger I need. I currently have an old hyperion eos0615 with a 12v 750w power supply. I picked it up cheap when I first got back in the game. It does what it’s supposed to do just slowly. As of now I only have a set of power hobby 4s 8000mah 120c and it takes the little guy about an hour to full charge for storage. My last charging setup was a hyperion 0720 with a 24v power supply. That was years ago but it was nice. Just looking to be one and done so any input would be appreciated


https://chargingcases.com/collectio...4010-duo-rtr-charging-case-by-radiocontronics

Is this worth the $$$$
 
If you are comfortable with electric work, I am using this one with my Hyperion 0720
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0786LMNR2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It will need a power cord and I placed it inside a case. Terminals are not shielded i.e. don't leave it in the open.

I'd probably go for this one now:
https://www.amazon.com/ABI-Supply-O...s=LED+power+supply+24V&qid=1605472605&sr=8-34
Needs a power cord for $3.

These charger cases are a bit overpriced imho. I can build the same for ~$100 in materials.
Supply $40, Case $40, misc stuff $20.
 
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Here’s where I’m unsure. The power supplies you linked are both 24v but one is 500w the other is 600w. Are those going to be sufficient? I have a 12v that is 750w for the hyperion. I’m just not sure whether I should be more concerned about 12/24v or watts or both.
 
Here is my build so far, icharger 406 duo, and two of these power supplies in a series for 24 volts, 1800 watt, 75 amp. I have had this charger and power supplies for awhile now and they power my 406 duo perfectly. If you look on youtube there are vids on how to convert this power supplies, and when I'm done I should only have $400 total in it. The case isn't done yet, still in progress. Wanted to keep it smaller than most of the prebuilt cases you can buy.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DPS-1200FB...-/263405357062?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292

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Here’s where I’m unsure. The power supplies you linked are both 24v but one is 500w the other is 600w. Are those going to be sufficient? I have a 12v that is 750w for the hyperion. I’m just not sure whether I should be more concerned about 12/24v or watts or both.
I beleive the ichargers can reach full potential off of 12v but I could be wrong. I switched to 24v so my charger wouldnt have to work as hard charging anything above 12v. But charging 6s was never an issue. That was a 12v 720 watt power supply. On this setup with 24v power supply, I never have an issue charging 8 4s lipos in an hour. That's @ 28.6 amps on one channel, and 24.4 on the other.
 
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Not sure how I feel about trying to wire these up myself. The price is definitely a huge difference from the power supplies that are already wired up ready to go. Maybe after some more reading and videos I’ll change my mind. I consider myself fairly handy but two things I typically leave to the pros. Gas and electricity. Two things I typically don’t play with.
 
Not sure how I feel about trying to wire these up myself. The price is definitely a huge difference from the power supplies that are already wired up ready to go. Maybe after some more reading and videos I’ll change my mind. I consider myself fairly handy but two things I typically leave to the pros. Gas and electricity. Two things I typically don’t play with.
It is actually very simple. And doesn't take much electrical knowledge. And you could in theory run 4 of these chargers in a series to get 48v to your charger. That would make your charger work very little to.charge a 10s battery. Not necessary though. I have built a few of these for me and my friends. And that eBay link I gave you, you can usually get a pair of them for $36 shipped.

 
How much power would you need?

6S-5000mAh = ~125W per Lipo. I charge 4 at once = ~500W
4S-8000mAh = ~ 125W, again 4 simultaneously at 1C rate
1 C rate will always equate to ~ 45min when charged from storage level.

The max usable you will be able to plug into the wall would be ~ 120V * 10 A = 1200W. I assume you are using a standard power cord.
There are 1000W or 1200W supplies out there but what I linked fits my needs. Just showing alternatives to $600 suitcases. I did not include the cost of a charger in my lineup above i.e. total material cost would be ~ $250, which makes sense as they typically need an hour to assemble plus 100% markup.
 
Found a used icharger 308 with a 12v 85a 1025w power supply. They are asking $325. Sound reasonable?
 
Found a used icharger 308 with a 12v 85a 1025w power supply. They are asking $325. Sound reasonable?
It's alright but that's pretty close to new prices of I had to guess, what's the actual power supply? Is it a converted server power supply or an actual bench top power supply? That will tell the difference. A 308 will do 30 amps, up to 8s lipo per channel. I would seriously think about a 24v power supply as the 308 duo has a 60 amp limit on the input side (720 watts max @ 12v input). If you ran 24 volts it would be 1440 watts max input.
 
I would buy direct from progressive rc just to make sure have a warranty if needed. Some places won't warranty eBay sales.

https://www.progressiverc.com/products/icharger-4010duo

If you go to convert a server power supply and need any help hit me up.

I had posted earlier that ichargers can reach max potential on a 12v power source but I was incorrect.
 
Do not consider a 12V source. You will kick yourself if you do. If you have one its ok, else get 24V.
Check the charger what it requires to meet spec. The charger tyically willl not reach there advertised values on 12V but only a fraction.
 
Do not consider a 12V source. You will kick yourself if you do. If you have one its ok, else get 24V.
Check the charger what it requires to meet spec. The charger tyically willl not reach there advertised values on 12V but only a fraction.
Just so you know @TheDad on a 12v source you will still be able to charge your 4s packs @ a 2c charge rate on each channel. So if you buy the 4010 duo and already have a 12v source you could upgrade power supplies later. Once you start charging 4 and 8 batteries at a time.
 
406 duo is all you need.
That’s what I’m using and this power supply.
https://usa-m.banggood.com/SKYRC-EF...se=CN&createTmp=1&ID=47184&ad_id=375118899077
I crank it up to 30v dc it will parallel charge 2-4s at 32a and 2-3s at 18a
So this is my setup. Icharger
https://m.banggood.com/ICharger-406...harger-Discharger-p-1057405.html?rmmds=search
Power supply Skyrc Efuel
https://m.banggood.com/index.php?com=customer&t=orderDetail&orders_id=78972650&status=11
2 buddyrc paraboard
https://www.buddyrc.com/charging-systems.html
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Just so you know @TheDad on a 12v source you will still be able to charge your 4s packs @ a 2c charge rate on each channel. So if you buy the 4010 duo and already have a 12v source you could upgrade power supplies later. Once you start charging 4 and 8 batteries at a time.


I do have a 12v 62.5a 750w power supply for my little hyperion. That will get me by to start correct? Until I can upgrade?
406 duo is all you need.
That’s what I’m using and this power supply.
https://usa-m.banggood.com/SKYRC-EF...se=CN&createTmp=1&ID=47184&ad_id=375118899077
I crank it up to 30v dc it will parallel charge 2-4s at 32a and 2-3s at 18a
So this is my setup. Icharger
https://m.banggood.com/ICharger-406...harger-Discharger-p-1057405.html?rmmds=search
Power supply Skyrc Efuel
https://m.banggood.com/index.php?com=customer&t=orderDetail&orders_id=78972650&status=11
2 buddyrc paraboard
https://www.buddyrc.com/charging-systems.htmlView attachment 109573


Wow that just shows how long I’ve been out of the game. Never seen the paraboards. So with those I can charge 2 of the same cell and mah and c rating on one channel?
 
I do have a 12v 62.5a 750w power supply for my little hyperion. That will get me by to start correct? Until I can upgrade?



Wow that just shows how long I’ve been out of the game. Never seen the paraboards. So with those I can charge 2 of the same cell and mah and c rating on one channel?
Yes. For example if I charge my 4s 8000mah batteries it is a total of 16000mah. At a 2c charge rate. I can parallel charge those batteries on one Chanel at 32 amps. Using a para board. If the price doesn’t scare you buy the stuff I have. You won’t regret it. The 406 will do everything you need.
 
I do have a 12v 62.5a 750w power supply for my little hyperion. That will get me by to start correct? Until I can upgrade?



Wow that just shows how long I’ve been out of the game. Never seen the paraboards. So with those I can charge 2 of the same cell and mah and c rating on one channel?
I too run the paraboard. That's how I can charge 4 lipo per channel. The only thing that matters when parallel charging is cell count. Capacity doesn't matter. But when you plug in the lipo into the paraboard you want them to be very similar in voltage. Epbuddy paraboard v3 have built in fuses for the charge leads and also ones between the balance ports for a little more protection.

That 12v power supply you have should be fine for charging a pair of lipo @ a 2c charge rate. I ran my icharger 406 off of a 12v power supply for awhile without issue. But stepped it up.to 24v when I started charging my 8 4s lipo all at once.
 
I do have a 12v 62.5a 750w power supply for my little hyperion. That will get me by to start correct? Until I can upgrade?



Wow that just shows how long I’ve been out of the game. Never seen the paraboards. So with those I can charge 2 of the same cell and mah and c rating on one channel?

Yes, your 12V will work, you can probably top it out. Max input current of the charger is <65A. Roughly 750W of charging power.
The charge will rach it's max potential at 23.5V.

Paraboards have been around for 10+ years, have you been out that long? Make sure they can handle the current.
 
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