Kraton kraton 6s pinion size ???

[boom1699]

kraton 6s with castle creations 2200 kv motor and monster max 6s esc motor temps have never gotten above 115 degrees on logs or the laser temp gun logs have shown esc temps around 170 so with 50 tooth spur i have run as large as a 30 tooth pinion everything ive read online and people i have talked in person too have said the 2200kv castle motor will run too hot in a kraton and even guys with 1717 combo reccomend against larger pinion than a 20 keeping in mind the 30 tooth combo is for on road straight line running with method rc belted all terrains but when im off road i have the smaller backflip lps and use a 26tooth pinion everything stayas really cool but according to everybody else that motor esc combo isnt meant for the heavy kraton and my pinion size is way too big my temps should be through the roof but never been above 115 on motor and 173 on esc i have two fans inbstalleed on 1515 motor but have never even plugged them in... am i missing something
ps with a 30 tooth pinion rips scary fast if i snap the throttle at 80mph letsa just say glad i got a wheelie bar lol

 

[Snowmandk]

You are definetly missing proper punctuation, which makes it a pain to read your text. But that is beside the point.

Are you running 4s or 6s?
A 30T pinion on 2200kv and 6s is would be friggin wild and there is no way the motor could stay cool...what do the ESC logs show for amp draw?

 

[Dales396lt4]

Welcome to the forum! 26T & 30T are big gears for your application for sure. But if it works for you and the way you drive go for it.

 

[fozzy71]

You are definetly missing proper punctuation, which makes it a pain to read your text. But that is beside the point.

Are you running 4s or 6s?
A 30T pinion on 2200kv and 6s is would be friggin wild and there is no way the motor could stay cool...what do the ESC logs show for amp draw?

LOL, I was thinking the same thing when I (tried to) read it earlier.

I had ChatGPT improve the OP:


Here's the improved version:

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I've got a Kraton 6S with a Castle Creations 2200KV motor and Monster Max 6S ESC. The motor temps have never gone above 115 degrees, whether measured by logs or a laser temp gun, and the logs show ESC temps around 170 degrees. I'm running a 50-tooth spur and have used up to a 30-tooth pinion.

Everything I've read online and people I've talked to in person say the 2200KV Castle motor will run too hot in a Kraton. Even guys with the 1717 combo recommend against using a pinion larger than 20 teeth. The 30-tooth combo is for on-road, straight-line running with Method RC belted all-terrain tires, but when I go off-road, I switch to smaller Backflip LPs and use a 26-tooth pinion. Everything stays really cool.

Despite what everyone else says about the motor and ESC combo not being suitable for the heavy Kraton and my pinion size being too large, my temps have never exceeded 115 degrees on the motor and 173 degrees on the ESC. I have two fans installed on the 1515 motor but have never even needed to plug them in. Am I missing something?

P.S. With a 30-tooth pinion, it rips scary fast. If I snap the throttle at 80 mph, let's just say I'm glad I have a wheelie bar!

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Let me know if there's anything else you'd like to add or adjust!

 

[blaster27]

You are definetly missing proper punctuation, which makes it a pain to read your text. But that is beside the point.

Are you running 4s or 6s?
A 30T pinion on 2200kv and 6s is would be friggin wild and there is no way the motor could stay cool...what do the ESC logs show for amp draw?

You sir should teach English. In a classroom of corse. . Did I write it correctly? .

 

[Dales396lt4]

Shouldn’t it be (You sir,)

 

[blaster27]

Shouldn’t it be (You sir,)

Yeah I'll buy that. With that said, I came here, to learn ARRMA, not punctuations. I retired years ago, so I lost some of my Gojo. .

 

[boom1699]

SORRY ABOUT THE GRAMMAR IT WAS A TYPO ERROR AND IT WAS WAY TOO LATE OR EARLY LOL TO CORRECT IT AND YES ITS ON 6S NEVER RAN IT STOCK I THREW THE CASTLE SYSTEM THE MOMENT I GOT IT WOULD JUST SEEM SLOW WITH STOCK 14T PINION I CAN PROLLY GO EVEN HIGHER IF TEMPS ARE IN CHECK RIGHT CAN IT HURT TO GO HIGHER IF TEMPS ARE ACCEPTABLE

You are definetly missing proper punctuation, which makes it a pain to read your text. But that is beside the point.

Are you running 4s or 6s?
A 30T pinion on 2200kv and 6s is would be friggin wild and there is no way the motor could stay cool...what do the ESC logs show for amp draw?

NEVER REALLY CHECKED ESC AMP DRAW IM CURIOUS TOO NOW ILL HAVE TO LOOK AT SAVED LOGS RIPPLE VOLTAGE WAS ALARMINGLY HIGH AT ABOVE 3 VOLTS

 

[blaster27]

So it's all good. Using all capital letters is really yelling. So maybe that's not what was meant. It's all good and no worries. I sometimes just go out and chill and take a break. . I do it all the time. .

 

[Dales396lt4]

If it is working for you, I would run it the way it is. Yes, you could go up in gearing if the temps are in check.

 

[blaster27]

@boom1699 , Glad you joined this group. You ask questions and we will try to answer them. This is like a strange family. , Think you will like it. . You are one of us. ha.

 

[Snowmandk]

SORRY ABOUT THE GRAMMAR IT WAS A TYPO ERROR AND IT WAS WAY TOO LATE OR EARLY LOL TO CORRECT IT AND YES ITS ON 6S NEVER RAN IT STOCK I THREW THE CASTLE SYSTEM THE MOMENT I GOT IT WOULD JUST SEEM SLOW WITH STOCK 14T PINION I CAN PROLLY GO EVEN HIGHER IF TEMPS ARE IN CHECK RIGHT CAN IT HURT TO GO HIGHER IF TEMPS ARE ACCEPTABLE


NEVER REALLY CHECKED ESC AMP DRAW IM CURIOUS TOO NOW ILL HAVE TO LOOK AT SAVED LOGS RIPPLE VOLTAGE WAS ALARMINGLY HIGH AT ABOVE 3 VOLTS

OH NO WORRIES MATE, IT'S ALL GOOD

Jokes aside, yes please let us know after you checked the logs.
I am really curios what they say, because even if you were "only" running a 26T and Backflip LP for offroad you'd still be geared for about 110mph.
Maybe the ESC is power limiting and that's why it heats up but the motor stays cool?

@boom1699 , Glad you joined this group. You ask questions and we will try to answer them. This is like a strange family. , Think you will like it. . You are one of us. ha.

 

[hobo]

You are definetly missing proper punctuation, which makes it a pain to read your text. But that is beside the point.

Are you running 4s or 6s?
A 30T pinion on 2200kv and 6s is would be friggin wild and there is no way the motor could stay cool...what do the ESC logs show for amp draw?

I don't no what he's on about either

 

[SrC]

Higher then wanted temps will occur with 2200KV motor on a K6s. You want no higher than 14T pinion. This may be as high as you want with 2200kv.
A temp gun in hand to decide for yourself what gearing is appropriate.

 

[hobo]

Higher then wanted temps will occur with 2200KV motor on a K6s. You want no higher than 14T pinion. This may be as high as you want with 2200kv.
A temp gun in hand to decide for yourself what gearing is appropriate.

nice to see you back by the way missed your knowledge about the hobby