Sensored verses sensorless

[Don mercier]

 

[bicketybam]

That was tough to listen to, lol.

 

[bicketybam]

http://rctruckstop.com/2011/12/15/brushless-motors-sensored-vs-sensorless/

 

[Jerry-rigged]

That was tough to listen to, lol.

Yeah, I'd harass you (and expect you to harass me) for making a vid like that, but it is pretty decent for a 12year old.(guessing)

=)

 

[Don mercier]

http://rctruckstop.com/2011/12/15/brushless-motors-sensored-vs-sensorless/

Thar explains why the rx8 are so pricey

Thar explains why the rx8 are so pricey

Sounds like a vxl is a pretty good system, to switch back and forth

 

[Jerry-rigged]

Thar explains why the rx8 are so pricey

Most all modern sensors ESC's run a hybrid cycle.

I'd say the Tekin stuff is expensive because #1, you are paying for the USA name, and #2, you are paying for real Customer support. And #3, you are paying for 2 ESCs for each one you purchase, so they don't lose money till you burn the second one down... =)

 

[Don mercier]

Most all modern sensors ESC's run a hybrid cycle.

I'd say the Tekin stuff is expensive because #1, you are paying for the USA name, and #2, you are paying for real Customer support. And #3, you are paying for 2 ESCs for each one you purchase, so they don't lose money till you burn the second one down... =)

Lmao, i like how the rx8 switches from sensored at takeoffs and then goes too sensorless

 

[chevys10zr2003]

Lmao, i like how the rx8 switches from sensored at takeoffs and then goes too sensorless

This is how most sensored systems work. The only one that I know of that works as sensored all the time is Hobbywing and they only will do that with Hobbywing motors.

Like @Jerry-rigged said, you are mostly paying for the Tekin name and customer service and that's why they are so expensive. Other sensored motors and escs are cheaper than Tekin, like Castle and Hobbywing.

In regards to that article, when did the Traxxas Velineon VXL-3s become sensored? I don't remember that esc having a sensor port...

 

[Don mercier]

This is how most sensored systems work. The only one that I know of that works as sensored all the time is Hobbywing and they only will do that with Hobbywing motors.

Like @Jerry-rigged said, you are mostly paying for the Tekin name and customer service and that's why they are so expensive. Other sensored motors and escs are cheaper than Tekin, like Castle and Hobbywing.

In regards to that article, when did the Traxxas Velineon VXL-3s become sensored? I don't remember that esc having a sensor port...

Controllers
In addition to strictly sensorless and strictly sensored controllers, there are two types of hybrid brushless controls. One type, such as the Traxxas Velineon VXL-3s, will automatically switch to sensored mode when a sensor loom is installed and sensors are detected. Another type of hybrid, such as Tekin RX8, switches from sensored at startup and low speed speeds to sensorless at high speeds.

 

[chevys10zr2003]

Controllers
In addition to strictly sensorless and strictly sensored controllers, there are two types of hybrid brushless controls. One type, such as the Traxxas Velineon VXL-3s, will automatically switch to sensored mode when a sensor loom is installed and sensors are detected. Another type of hybrid, such as Tekin RX8, switches from sensored at startup and low speed speeds to sensorless at high speeds.

I read that in the article. How would you install a sensor loom for the controller to detect the sensors, if there isn't a place to plug the sensor loom into the esc was my question.

 

[Don mercier]

Controllers
In addition to strictly sensorless and strictly sensored controllers, there are two types of hybrid brushless controls. One type, such as the Traxxas Velineon VXL-3s, will automatically switch to sensored mode when a sensor loom is installed and sensors are detected. Another type of hybrid, such as Tekin RX8, switches from sensored at startup and low speed speeds to sensorless at high speeds.

Ive been reading this poop for two weeks, tying too find the best set up by the sounds of thing sensored motors arnt waterproof thats there only down fall

 

[Cheapbastard]

The old VXL-3s had a port for a sensor wire https://traxxas.com/products/parts/escs/vxl3s

The new one doesn't https://traxxas.com/products/parts/escs/vxl3s/3355Rvxl3s

The VXL 3500kv is not a bad motor I run it in a 2wd Rustler with a Hobbywing Max10 80a RTR version esc (TR-MT10E esc). I would not bother with the VXL esc if buying new the motor yes the esc no a Hobbywing Max10 SCT 120a would be better IMO.

 

[chevys10zr2003]

The old VXL-3s had a port for a sensor wire https://traxxas.com/products/parts/escs/vxl3s

The new one doesn't https://traxxas.com/products/parts/escs/vxl3s/3355Rvxl3s

The VXL 3500kv is not a bad motor I run it in a 2wd Rustler with a Hobbywing Max10 80a RTR version esc (TR-MT10E esc). I would not bother with the VXL esc if buying new the motor yes the esc no a Hobbywing Max10 SCT 120a would be better IMO.

Ok, that makes sense. I was going to say that I didn't remember seeing a sensor port when I bought mine like 2 years ago. Not saying 100% that there wasn't one, just that I never saw one. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[bicketybam]

Most all modern sensors ESC's run a hybrid cycle.

I was going to say the sensored Castle ESC's are like that, right?

 

[Jerry-rigged]

I think my MMX can be set to hybrid cycle, or full time sensors. Default is hybrid.

 

[slick2500]

The old VXL-3s had a port for a sensor wire https://traxxas.com/products/parts/escs/vxl3s

The new one doesn't https://traxxas.com/products/parts/escs/vxl3s/3355Rvxl3s

The VXL 3500kv is not a bad motor I run it in a 2wd Rustler with a Hobbywing Max10 80a RTR version esc (TR-MT10E esc). I would not bother with the VXL esc if buying new the motor yes the esc no a Hobbywing Max10 SCT 120a would be better IMO.

I was wondering what that port was for. It just says AUX port on the esc.