Senton Senton 6s vs Mojave 6s

[Shadows]

Yes, the Senton 6s arms are still available. Run them while they are and the body would fit nicely.

That’s just not necessary at all.

CVD’s are great, but not as necessary with the shorter Senton shafts/arms.

Not sure why you’d think that. We’re talking Senton 6s body here, right? If you go Typhon arms you’ll be hacking up that Senton body to get the clearance while having to mount it really high. And it would still rub on landings or hard compression.

I don't know how available the arms really are. It is a discontinued model. I wasn't suggesting full CVD's at the back end, although I did do that for my orange V5 Typhon to Senton conversion. As for the track width, I just mounted the body higher up, using longer posts. Looks fine to me, and the JConcepts F2 body I used actually is a lower profile, so they're all do-able. As far as the build he was talking about, it appeared he was interested in building a 1/8th, LWB chassis (Kraton or Talion) SCT. That's why I suggested the slightly wider Typhon control/A-Arm track to go with a 1/8th SCT body such as Hobao's that would very likely fit well with that. The S6 is made to fit 1/10th SCT bodies. I don't know how else to explain that.

As far as my S6 from Typhon parts build, I made sure that the body absolutely will not make contact with the body.

But, again - he was talking about an interest in a 1/8th (LWB) ARRMA chassis. I do realize he was talking about a truggy version of it, but I thought I'd show that if he ever did want to make a full-on SCT (the body) in a 1/8th scale, that it is an option. Stock S6 track width for that would be a bit too narrow. Typhon width would be spot-on. Would sure beat having a Mojave 4s imo.

 

[KnowAir]

To better fit a 1/8th SCT body, you'd be better off with Typhon arms/CVD driveshafts. I believe Hoboa has a worthwhile niche body for that.

For aesthetics I agree, narrow is appropriate to get the wheels "tucked in", while the Mojo arms do make it wider than a proper 1/8 SCT, I like the extra stability they provide. I also have a Mojo with Kraton arms and narrow hubs, it does pretty well for me. I'm running DTX truggy tires on it now, but it looks killer with Talion Katar T's on it to me. The wheels and tires do indeed hang out a bit, but it looks aggressive in motion, a bit awkward sitting static though since I hacked the wheel wells out quite a bit for the taller tires/Kraton arms.
I suppose there's no wrong way to build it so long as you like it.

 

[Shadows]

For aesthetics I agree, narrow is appropriate to get the wheels "tucked in", while the Mojo arms do make it wider than a proper 1/8 SCT, I like the extra stability they provide.

I suppose there's no wrong way to build it so long as you like it.

Absolutely not. Agreed. Preference matters.

 

[Dan B.]

I wasn't suggesting full CVD's at the back end, although I did do that for my orange V5 Typhon to Senton conversion.

Agreed, I’ve done that to all my Typhons and it’s a worthwhile upgrade.

As for the track width, I just mounted the body higher up, using longer posts. Looks fine to me, and the JConcepts F2 body I used actually is a lower profile, so they're all do-able.

I may have misunderstood the OP. I didn’t get the truggy part of it, I guess. I was basing my response on building a 6s Senton from a Typhon chassis. I’m not a fan of putting bigger wheels/tires on an SCT. It then pretty much stops being an SCT. I prefer the tires being tucked inside the body as SCT’s are.

The S6 is made to fit 1/10th SCT bodies. I don't know how else to explain that.

You don’t need to, I get it. Just like the “1/10” Traxxas Slash bodies. I’m just saying that the 1/10 scale is really pretty arbitrary, as the Slash is clearly closer to 1/8 scale than to 1/10. Want to see a real 1/10 scale? Look at the touring cars, those are actually to scale. Obviously an SCT would be bigger than a sports car, but park one of those next to a Senton or a Slash and it’s pretty clear they’re nowhere near the same scale. Even the 1/10 crawlers are far more accurate in scale. I remember back when I was a noob I ordered a bunch of parts to add more scale realism to my first Slash only to find that I had ordered parts for 1/10 crawlers, so that really groovy front bumper with the tow rings was like 3 or 4 inches too small, the Jerry cans looked liked toys, etc. etc. It was frustrating to learn that way, especially considering how impatient I am and all of those parts came on the slow boat from China.

 

[Shadows]

Agreed, I’ve done that to all my Typhons and it’s a worthwhile upgrade.

I may have misunderstood the OP. I didn’t get the truggy part of it, I guess. I was basing my response on building a 6s Senton from a Typhon chassis. I’m not a fan of putting bigger wheels/tires on an SCT. It then pretty much stops being an SCT. I prefer the tires being tucked inside the body as SCT’s are.

You don’t need to, I get it. Just like the “1/10” Traxxas Slash bodies. I’m just saying that the 1/10 scale is really pretty arbitrary, as the Slash is clearly closer to 1/8 scale than to 1/10. Want to see a real 1/10 scale? Look at the touring cars, those are actually to scale. Obviously an SCT would be bigger than a sports car, but park one of those next to a Senton or a Slash and it’s pretty clear they’re nowhere near the same scale. Even the 1/10 crawlers are far more accurate in scale. I remember back when I was a noob I ordered a bunch of parts to add more scale realism to my first Slash only to find that I had ordered parts for 1/10 crawlers, so that really groovy front bumper with the tow rings was like 3 or 4 inches too small, the Jerry cans looked liked toys, etc. etc. It was frustrating to learn that way, especially considering how impatient I am and all of those parts came on the slow boat from China.

Yeah. Was only saying 1/10th as far as RC SCT scale. I know they're huge. Years ago when I only had the E-Maxx, a friend of mine brought over a new Senton. I couldn't believe how huge the body was compared to the E-Maxx's.

 

[KnowAir]

I see the manufacturers scale system to be nothing more than a suggestion generally. I mean with regards to the bashers that most of us are talking about. There are just so many examples of rc's that are nowhere near the advertised scale, namely TRX, but even Arrma stretches the imagination as far as scale goes.
E-Revo 2.0, 1/10 scale? It's literally the same size as a K6 or Kagama, though narrower once you put zero offset wheels on the Revo.
Maxx 4s is the same 1/10 as a Hoss? I think not.
Arrma 4s Kraton is about the same size as most any 1/8 race truggy..

 

[332_RC]

So maybe the best thing to do with my Talion EXB chassis is to build a Talion.

 

[305HemiGuy]

So maybe the best thing to do with my Talion EXB chassis is to build a Talion.

You can never go wrong with a Talion. Best of both worlds if you ask me. Speed & agility of a Typhon...off-road capable like a Kraton.

 

[Mike'sGN-Kraton]

Everything is readily available still.... Everything. You just need to buy it....
Only thing that is hard to find are shock shafts.... Mike

 

[332_RC]

I did notice in my research that the Talion had towers & shocks unique to it.

 

[Garcbomber]

I did notice in my research that the Talion had towers & shocks unique to it.

Center bones as well as mid stub/hubs like the fireteam, it’s really the most balanced Arrma configuration throughout their entire RTR database

 

[Greengaunja]

Not so much the ESC and motor, but the size difference. It's so much 'smarter' to have a 1/10th scale with 8th scale drivetrain. SCT Short arms don’t break NEAR as easily. The body mounts are different. Lighter for the S6. Bumpers of the S6 are lighter as well. It is the superior SCT. Much easier on stock, or 1/8th scale electronics. The M6 is also beloved because it's weight shifts around, creating all that realistic body roll. But the S6 can do that to. The deal with the S6 is, it's smaller, lighter, easier on components, and discontinued lol. People tend to appreciate stuff from the past. They don't quite know how good something is until it's gone. Same with our lives. We don't appreciate one another in the moment (near as much) until we lose each other. We take everything and everyone for granted until it's gone. Human beings are strange.

See is the 6s Senton really a 10th scale? I consider 1/8 because size-wise it's almost scale with the 3s Senton. And whats the major difference between those two? The 3s is a LWB to the 6s being SWB. So that math would suggest it being 1/8th. Further providing examples, other models sharing the same 6s chassis are considered 1/8th. So why does everyone consider the 6s Senton 1/10th? Makes no sense.
And it's dumb to use cells to differentiate the models because take my "6S Senton". It's actually 8s now. Same applies to the 3s. It can be 2s, 4s, 5s, or 6s. And I'm sure someone out there even went 8s on that poor plastic chassis....

 

[Dan B.]

See is the 6s Senton really a 10th scale? I consider 1/8 because size-wise it's almost scale with the 3s Senton. And whats the mojor difference between those two? The 3s is a LWB to the 6s being SWB. So that math would suggest it being 1/8th. Further providing examples, other models sharing the same 6s chassis are considered 1/8th. So why does everyone consider the 6s Senton 1/10th? Makes no sense.
And it's dumb to use cells to differentiate the models because take my "6S Senton". It's actually 8s now. Same applies to the 3s. It can be 2s, 4s, 5s, or 6s. And I'm sure someone out there even went 8s on that poor plastic chassis....

Dude, you’ve got to scroll up a few dozen posts…

 

[Greengaunja]

Dude, you’ve got to scroll up a few dozen posts…

I know. Bad habits are hard to change. I read threads from start to finish and reply accordingly

 

[Dan B.]

I know. Bad habits are hard to change. I read threads from start to finish and reply accordingly

Then…start from the start?

 

[Greengaunja]

The topic is also a sore point because EVERYONE and their damn mothers are always trying to correct me when I say 1/8. Even Horizon themselves don't know. I had a screenshot from their site a couple years ago where in their description they called it a 1/10th in one sentence and a 1/8th in the next..