Bigtim29
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So when the shock standoff is off the m3 screw, can I drill the inside of it out to 4mm and tap it? Trying to make these things sturdy.
Talion Shock stand off M4 mod
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No harm in trying..?
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You could buy the m4 standoffs m2c racing sells too.
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These aren’t out yet but are a superior design. You might want to wait for these.
I think from talking with you in the past you have access to a lathe. If you do you can make some really nice stand offs out of 1/4 shcs.
I think from talking with you in the past you have access to a lathe. If you do you can make some really nice stand offs out of 1/4 shcs.
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I see the design on the exb ones are different than the m2c. But the exb still uses an m3 screw while the m2c uses a m4 screw. Is the web version tougher?
Sadly I don’t have access to a lathe, because of Covid. Only lathes I have access to are the county’s career and tech center for school, and school is cancelled till Jan 28.
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The new optional exb ones (don’t actually come with the exb Kraton...) are still 3mm but all one piece. The m2c’s are nice but some guys on here still break them so idk if they are much better.
Sorry schools cancelled, but glad you still have a tech school. My county’s was changed years ago to a center for arts, basically learning drama, interpretive dance and other things that have nothing to do with reality. Hope you can get back to school sooner, hang in there my friend.
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I have the M2C ones and I've still bent them, but at the end of the day I would buy the M2C over the Arrma ones..??
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Why not get a regular button head or... Whatever the thicker heads are called? If you countersink the tower you'll create a weak spot and the hole could deform. I used M3 with 2.5mm heads.
Why not get a regular button head or... Whatever the thicker heads are called? If you countersink the tower you'll create a weak spot and the hole could deform. I used M3 with 2.5mm heads.
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You want to use Cap heads..?? they have a bigger hex size too..!!
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I had that m3x30 screw as an extra and it fit for temporary use , that’s why I have it currently. But I’ll definitley get some cap head screws eventually. Also I check to see if the stock shock stand-off was thick enough to drill out to 4mm and tap it and it looks to thin to me. I probably won’t try it.
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@Jimbobjr.. has the best standoff's as his are threaded all the way through..!!
Arrma's are hollow backed and I believe that's what causes the problem with theirs, and M2C are two pieces a threaded grub into a machined standoff that is threaded..??
I would guess that @Jimbobjr 's are the toughest of the three..??
Arrma's are hollow backed and I believe that's what causes the problem with theirs, and M2C are two pieces a threaded grub into a machined standoff that is threaded..??
I would guess that @Jimbobjr 's are the toughest of the three..??
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What you have there will work fin in a pinch. There are countersunk washers you could buy cheap that transfer the force over a wider area. Just have to match one up with that size screw.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Hillman...MIp7D2-tui6wIVTNyGCh2wPA7UEAQYASABEgJT0vD_BwE
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Yep use a cap head to replace that as soon as you can. A cap head uses a larger hex than pan or flat head screws.
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Don't countersink your tower, weakens it.
Just buy a bunch of 30mm screws, length doesn't really matter. You can probably buy 40 for teh price of an M2C upgrade. By the time you are through that pack your skills will have improved
You can drill out the tower for M4, you can use M4 screws, but the shock standoffs (stock) can't be reworked to M4 unless you have the right tools, never tried it but now thinking about it. It's hardened steel and not that manageable (I think..).
Just buy a bunch of 30mm screws, length doesn't really matter. You can probably buy 40 for teh price of an M2C upgrade. By the time you are through that pack your skills will have improved
You can drill out the tower for M4, you can use M4 screws, but the shock standoffs (stock) can't be reworked to M4 unless you have the right tools, never tried it but now thinking about it. It's hardened steel and not that manageable (I think..).
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Hey @Bigtim29 I just remembered hardware pack JennysRc sells comes with those screws and the stand offs.
https://jennysrc.com/collections/ar...hardware-standoffs-hinge-pins-arrma-ara106053
This is for the Kraton EXB but mostly the same hardware except for maybe the lower shock mounts. Lots of hardware plus an extra wheel wrench for 20$...
https://jennysrc.com/collections/ar...hardware-standoffs-hinge-pins-arrma-ara106053
This is for the Kraton EXB but mostly the same hardware except for maybe the lower shock mounts. Lots of hardware plus an extra wheel wrench for 20$...
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Keep in mind that the bolt snaps at the weakest point. A countersink will not help at all. Those are meant to spread the force across the material supporting it, in order to minimize stress on that surface, but that is not where you have any issues. Of course they will work, the washer will work as well but you have no gain in strength. They will snap in the same spot and you have more loose hardware when it happens. If you have a bunch of them laying around, go for it. If you buy something get the cap head style. Don't get stainless ones either, they have less tensil strength and will snap faster.
