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My Talion has recently been promoted to my favorite RC, so I decided to make a XL version. Got all the parts from Jenny's. Planning to keep it pretty much stock until I have the need for upgrades, other than a few select items such as HR Diff covers and 3DRC Bumper and wing mount.
I decided to go EXB on the F&R diffs, but will be going standard with the center. I've never had any problems with the stock center, and wanted to get the 46T spur gear already included rather than having to buy the EXB center diff with the 50T, then buying a smaller spur from Vitavon or Robinson Racing. I put the aluminum diff cover on from the start as I don't want this thing to start slinging fluid down the road. Currently starting the center diff at around 400K.
Going 50K front and 30K rear in the diffs. Open diff using the Arrma shims, however, if they start giving me trouble I'll go with my buddy @HZRDOS's stronger 29mm diff method. Since this is a XLWB I'm not planning on sending it too much, will mostly be a speed ripper like my smaller Talion. But we will see...
Started the build last night, referring to the exploded view is a little tougher than I thought lol. I swear my screw kit from JRC is missing 8 M4x12mm's for the bulkheads...good thing I have a ton of extra screws. Although I feel like once I get to the end I'm gonna have a ton of screws leftover ha.
Ran into an issue right off the bat with the stock bulkheads...the M3x12's that are supposed to secure the D block, one of them has no bite at all. I went up to 16mm then 20mm but still no luck, So one side of the bulkhead isn't secured into the D block, but it is still secured from the chassis below so I think I'll be okay for a little while anyway. I didn't plan on upgrading to aluminum bulkheads as I've done them o some other builds in the past and they seemed unnecessary, especially when pairing the stock bulkhead with the aluminum cover. I also did manage to bend one on my Kraton on a roof landing once.
But for reasons such as these, they may be worth it? Or I could just swap it out for a spare plastic bulkhead I have laying around. But as I said, I figured since the D block is also secured from the chassis from below it should be fine until I have to do some diff maintenance down the road.
Thoughts?
On to stiffening the servo saver, I put two snap rings under the EXB spring and am planning on running a JX 35kg servo on 7.4 volts. Works like a charm in my regular Talion so we'll see. Also replaced the crappy bushings for bearings from Fast Eddy.
Currently awaiting the front 157mm dogbone for the XLWB chassis, so moving on to mounting the electronics. My combo of choice is a Castle MMX8s and 1650kv combo. Very similar to what @Deiglie did in his recent build log. Not gonna lie, his log was a big inspiration for this one lol. I'll start off running a 20T pinion with the 46T spur and see how it does.
Current status, still waiting on more items to be delivered. I'll be running Kraton hubs on this rig. Figured it would be nice to have the extended width build in, although I've wondered if I should run the shorter Talion ones and just add extenders if I need. But I feel pretty good with the Kraton hubs for now, I run my regular Talion with the 1/2' offset proline wheels and love the stance, so with backflip LP's I'm planning on running here, it will be an equivalent width.
On to mounting the ESC and servo. Appreciate the feedback as you all follow me through this build!
I decided to go EXB on the F&R diffs, but will be going standard with the center. I've never had any problems with the stock center, and wanted to get the 46T spur gear already included rather than having to buy the EXB center diff with the 50T, then buying a smaller spur from Vitavon or Robinson Racing. I put the aluminum diff cover on from the start as I don't want this thing to start slinging fluid down the road. Currently starting the center diff at around 400K.
Going 50K front and 30K rear in the diffs. Open diff using the Arrma shims, however, if they start giving me trouble I'll go with my buddy @HZRDOS's stronger 29mm diff method. Since this is a XLWB I'm not planning on sending it too much, will mostly be a speed ripper like my smaller Talion. But we will see...
Started the build last night, referring to the exploded view is a little tougher than I thought lol. I swear my screw kit from JRC is missing 8 M4x12mm's for the bulkheads...good thing I have a ton of extra screws. Although I feel like once I get to the end I'm gonna have a ton of screws leftover ha.
Ran into an issue right off the bat with the stock bulkheads...the M3x12's that are supposed to secure the D block, one of them has no bite at all. I went up to 16mm then 20mm but still no luck, So one side of the bulkhead isn't secured into the D block, but it is still secured from the chassis below so I think I'll be okay for a little while anyway. I didn't plan on upgrading to aluminum bulkheads as I've done them o some other builds in the past and they seemed unnecessary, especially when pairing the stock bulkhead with the aluminum cover. I also did manage to bend one on my Kraton on a roof landing once.
But for reasons such as these, they may be worth it? Or I could just swap it out for a spare plastic bulkhead I have laying around. But as I said, I figured since the D block is also secured from the chassis from below it should be fine until I have to do some diff maintenance down the road.
Thoughts?
On to stiffening the servo saver, I put two snap rings under the EXB spring and am planning on running a JX 35kg servo on 7.4 volts. Works like a charm in my regular Talion so we'll see. Also replaced the crappy bushings for bearings from Fast Eddy.
Currently awaiting the front 157mm dogbone for the XLWB chassis, so moving on to mounting the electronics. My combo of choice is a Castle MMX8s and 1650kv combo. Very similar to what @Deiglie did in his recent build log. Not gonna lie, his log was a big inspiration for this one lol. I'll start off running a 20T pinion with the 46T spur and see how it does.
Current status, still waiting on more items to be delivered. I'll be running Kraton hubs on this rig. Figured it would be nice to have the extended width build in, although I've wondered if I should run the shorter Talion ones and just add extenders if I need. But I feel pretty good with the Kraton hubs for now, I run my regular Talion with the 1/2' offset proline wheels and love the stance, so with backflip LP's I'm planning on running here, it will be an equivalent width.
On to mounting the ESC and servo. Appreciate the feedback as you all follow me through this build!
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