I honestly first don't have the money to spend on batteries. I have tried my Zeee packs and my Outcast has more punch than I could ever ask for. It wheelies so damn easily. It flips easily. They are just fine for a normal basher like me. Also spending 100+ on just a single 3s pack is kind of insane. I know I will crash and my bat will get ejected. It has happened once and I don't want 200 down the drain. They work just fine. Now if I really had a choice I would go CNHL. Now there really is no need because I own too many batteries