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[RCbuzz]

@RCbuzz
What was that price again?
Just so I have a reference..

Oh interesting, the desktop mode shows the price 239.99.

 

[Tex Koder]

New firmware released for the s1 pro to print at 160mms without clipper. Are you able to use the s1 pro MB in the S1?

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Since I Don't own the E3S1 PRO..
Just the basic S1, I decided to look at what's available for its firmware...

Well what do you know!
it has had this Updated firmware with ALL those New features since June of this year!!
with the Faster print speed of 160mm/s !!!
(Without the need for Sonic Pad or Klipper.)

And I've been stupidly putsying a long all this time

I can kick myself!!!!

 

[PeighDay]

Since I Don't own the E3S1 PRO..
Just the basic S1, I decided to look at what's available for its firmware...

Well what do you know!
it has had this Updated firmware with ALL those New features since June of this year!!
with the Faster print speed of 160mm/s !!!
(Without the need for Sonic Pad or Klipper.)

And I've been stupidly putsying a long all this time
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I can kick myself!!!!

Only reason I knew about it was I was checking the Reddit pages for new 3D printers and finally got around to replacing the broken SD card slot on the MB to allow to me to the upgrade. Benefit of being up at 4am with sick kids. Haha. I just did the update myself. I am very pleased just with the small things I have seen already. I'm very happy it now allows me to set the Z offeset but .01 of a decimal. Previously it was only by .10 of an adjustment and for some reason that really bothered me. Also looks like they have sort of new leveling thing. Have to play around with it some more. Interface also looks cleaner on the display.

So far very pleased Time to benchy test.

 

[Tex Koder]

Only reason I knew about it was I was checking the Reddit pages for new 3D printers and finally got around to replacing the broken SD card slot on the MB to allow to me to the upgrade. Benefit of being up at 4am with sick kids. Haha. I just did the update myself. I am very pleased just with the small things I have seen already. I'm very happy it now allows me to set the Z offeset but .01 of a decimal. Previously it was only by .10 of an adjustment and for some reason that really bothered me. Also looks like they have sort of new leveling thing. Have to play around with it some more. Interface also looks cleaner on the display.

So far very pleased Time to benchy test.


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Either way..
Thank You for sharing and letting me know of the firmware update. I don't think I would have bothered to Ever look... til another 4-5 years has gone by..


And those do look like nifty features.
I'll update my printer and give them a spin.

 

[PeighDay]

Either way..
Thank You for sharing and letting me know of the firmware update. I don't think I would have bothered to Ever look... til another 4-5 years has gone by..


And those do look like nifty features.
I'll update my printer and give them a spin.

Well it seems the update did something to the way I perform my bed leveling...

After performing the latest update I am having some slight issues with bed leveling. I have set my bed leveling following the guides from Creality for the past year but for some reason now when I run it I get different results. When I run the Aux Level to start the bed leveling process the Extruder is way higher than the print bed, at the point where the print nozzle is over 5 mm away from the print bed. Showing this I added some spacer to the bed to lift it up. I ran the Aux level again and still it was a little better but at -4.95mm Z offset. I tried setting the mesh from here by moving around the print bed and adjusting the spring / silicone spacers. When I had all the corners set for manual bed adjustment I ran the auto level. Auto level ran and then at the end it pushed down the print bed down really hard after it was completed. I had to manually adjust the Z offset to -2.85mm. Seems like quite a difference from when I originally ran the ABL. Is this normal? I'm just kind of confused on what the leveling is doing.

When I previously did the auto leveling I would run the aux level. Make sure all 4 corners are good and then run the auto level and the auto level would return to nearly the same Z spot and not try to push my bed down.

Hope this make sense. Seems like the firmware update changed the way the ABL is performed.

 

[Tex Koder]

Well it seems the update did something to the way I perform my bed leveling...

After performing the latest update I am having some slight issues with bed leveling. I have set my bed leveling following the guides from Creality for the past year but for some reason now when I run it I get different results. When I run the Aux Level to start the bed leveling process the Extruder is way higher than the print bed, at the point where the print nozzle is over 5 mm away from the print bed. Showing this I added some spacer to the bed to lift it up. I ran the Aux level again and still it was a little better but at -4.95mm Z offset. I tried setting the mesh from here by moving around the print bed and adjusting the spring / silicone spacers. When I had all the corners set for manual bed adjustment I ran the auto level. Auto level ran and then at the end it pushed down the print bed down really hard after it was completed. I had to manually adjust the Z offset to -2.85mm. Seems like quite a difference from when I originally ran the ABL. Is this normal? I'm just kind of confused on what the leveling is doing.

When I previously did the auto leveling I would run the aux level. Make sure all 4 corners are good and then run the auto level and the auto level would return to nearly the same Z spot and not try to push my bed down.

Hope this make sense. Seems like the firmware update changed the way the ABL is performed.

Bummer!
That's typical with a firmware change.. it erases All your previous adjustments/calibrations to your printer...

I'm taking the family out to the park..
Will look into this issue with you once we get back.

I know I'll have to go through my PID calibrations after the update myself...

 

[Tex Koder]

@PeighDay

We're back from the park..
Need to feed the hungry kiddos.

Will be ready to help afterwards..



Why don't you copy and paste the above issues to a new thread and we'll try and solve it there.

 

[RCbuzz]

So is the consensus that the best value printer out of the box is the Bambu Labs P1S?

I don't see myself needing the AMS... If I do a multicolor I don't mind changing the filaments as necessary.

Looks like current pricing is 600$ without AMS and $850 with.

Tough Call, any solid options in the $300 range? Direct Drive, something decent for TPU and the occasional ABS (I can build an enclosure).

 

[Cypher]

So is the consensus that the best value printer out of the box is the Bambu Labs P1S?

I don't see myself needing the AMS... If I do a multicolor I don't mind changing the filaments as necessary.

Looks like current pricing is 600$ without AMS and $850 with.

Tough Call, any solid options in the $300 range? Direct Drive, something decent for TPU and the occasional ABS (I can build an enclosure).

I have used the bambu X1C at work for a while now, and even though I didn't think I needed the ams, I see I could use it. Not only for different material, but this printer prints so fast, that it will run out of filament on a 12h print. So if I start a 16h print, I have to change filament when I show up for work the day after, and resume the print. With ams I could load up 2 slots with same material, and when it runs out of the first spool, it resumes on the second by itself.

 

[332_RC]

Micro Center has the Ender 3 V3 SE for 159.00 in stock at my store near me. I almost went today to get one. I don't have a 3d printer but that's sounding like a deal if I'm wanting to get into it.

 

[Tex Koder]

Micro Center has the Ender 3 V3 SE for 159.00 in stock at my store near me. I almost went today to get one. I don't have a 3d printer but that's sounding like a deal if I'm wanting to get into it.

If you have a budget but still want a decent printer..

I would suggest you consider the next model up - Ender 3 V3 KE
It has Klipper , touchscreen and filament runout sensor.

Here's a good vid to compare the features >>

Don't skimp out and regret later..

 

[332_RC]

I'm about to check that out on the laptop. Thanks Tex. I wanna get in the game & I want a good starter printer. I obviously want to print rc stuff but functional stuff too as well as figurines.

 

[Tex Koder]

I'm about to check that out on the laptop. Thanks Tex. I wanna get in the game & I want a good starter printer.

Certainly.

There's just a ton of variables to absorb and Comprehend Beforehand to really understand what you need in a 3D printer...

Wish I can "download" what I know Now into someone else brain like the Matrix...
To be able to explain ALL the minute details one needs to know (or to look out for) Before they make a final purchasing decision.

I obviously want to print rc stuff but functional stuff too as well as figurines.

But it would be disingenuous of me to not suggest the:

Bambu Labs A1 (w/ AMS)

Bambu Labs P1S (w/ AMS)

or their flagship X1 Carbon (w/ AMS)


or

Creality K1

Creality K1 Max

to you IF you know you'll be wanting to get serious about designing and producing functional parts also.

 

[332_RC]

Certainly.

There's just a ton of variables to absorb and Comprehend Beforehand to really understand what you need in a 3D printer...

Wish I can "download" what I know Now into someone else brain like the Matrix...
To be able to explain ALL the minute details one needs to know (or to look out for) Before they make a final purchasing decision.



But it would be disingenuous of me to not suggest the:

Bambu Labs A1 (w/ AMS)

Bambu Labs P1S (w/ AMS)

or their flagship X1 Carbon (w/ AMS)


or

Creality K1

Creality K1 Max

to you IF you know you'll be wanting to get serious about designing and producing functional parts also.

Much appreciated! I need direction. I have Fusion 360 already for other work & kinda a newbie to that too but I can make simple designs so far.

 

[332_RC]

The KE is a superior choice over the SE for me & what I wanna do. For 120 bucks more it's a no brainer. Not in stock at MC yet but online at other sites. Thanks again

 

[Tex Koder]

The KE is a superior choice over the SE for me & what I wanna do. For 120 bucks more it's a no brainer. Not in stock at MC yet but online at other sites. Thanks again

Okay.
And just to make another recommendation (Not to confuse you.)

The Elegoo Neptune 4 & 4 Pro
are printers that's equal or better to the features on Ender 3 KE.

Just so you know.

 

[332_RC]

Okay.
And just to make another recommendation (Not to confuse you.)

The Elegoo Neptune 4 & 4 Pro
are printers that's equal or better to the features on Ender 3 KE.

Just so you know.

Oh no you're good I want to learn. I may want to print ABS TPU or nylon one day. Looks like that one will do it. Still reading if the KE will nylon. I like the wifi features on the KE if you want to farm. Not sure if 4 Pro supports that. Still digging

 

[Tex Koder]

Oh no you're good I want to learn. I may want to print ABS TPU or nylon one day. Looks like that one will do it. Still reading if the KE will nylon. I like the wifi features on the KE if you want to farm. Not sure if 4 Pro supports that. Still digging

Absolutely.
Definitely feel free to ask for Real feedback..

Because all those "Listed" Features may actually be just fanciful marketing terms than reality..

 

[332_RC]

Got it. My next 300-500 buck investment will be a 3d printer not another rc rig

 

[Tex Koder]

Got it. My next 300-500 buck investment will be a 3d printer not another rc rig

It's going to be Eye Opening once you get your first actual part to materialize right in front of you
-from nothingness...