Proline finally out with 3.8" belted...

[PaPa Thorn]

I spend more money on my toy cars than my real one.

Same here, then again I'm not sending my wife's Versa.

 

[Just a Basher]

And we all know that beer is the most important thing in life.

As a home brewer, I fully agree with this statement.

Here are the weights I gathered. Would be cool to have a huge list somewhere of tire sizes and weights stickied.
Proline Badlands 3.8 - 244g
Proline Trencher 3.8 - 390g
Proline Trencher X 3.8 - 387g
dBoots Backflip - 351g

Cant find anything on MX38s which are quite a bit wider and taller than the regular badlands.

Sources:
https://www.arrmaforum.com/threads/some-tire-weight-info.2301/
and I pulled other photos from a google search

 

[SrC]

Mx38 is heavy enough be a 1:1 MT tire.

 

[olds97_lss]

As a home brewer, I fully agree with this statement.

Here are the weights I gathered. Would be cool to have a huge list somewhere of tire sizes and weights stickied.
Proline Badlands 3.8 - 244g
Proline Trencher 3.8 - 390g
Proline Trencher X 3.8 - 387g
dBoots Backflip - 351g

Cant find anything on MX38s which are quite a bit wider and taller than the regular badlands.

Sources:
https://www.arrmaforum.com/threads/some-tire-weight-info.2301/
and I pulled other photos from a google search

Thanks! I thought the X's were lighter than the standard 3.8 trenchers. I guess not. You have your number transposed.

My running sheet:

Brand	Tire	Rim Size	Weight (oz)	Grams	lbs
Traxxas	Maxx AllTerrain (0 offset)	3.8	11.5	326.02	0.72
Traxxas	Talons v1 (0 offset)	3.8	9.1	257.98	0.57
Pro-line	Trencher 3.8 (0 offset)	3.8	13.4	379.88	0.84
Pro-line	Trencher X 3.8	3.8	13.651	387.00	0.85
Arrma	Backflips (0 offset)	3.8	12.5	354.37	0.78
Arrma	Minokawa Mt (Kraton v3) 1/2" offset	3.8	10.5	297.67	0.66
Arrma	Katar (talion v2/3 stock)	3.8	7.16	202.98	0.45
Louise RC	t-rock	3.8	9.06	256.85	0.57
Louise RC	ST-Viper	3.8	16.15	457.84	1.01
Pro-line	Trencher 2.8 17mm standard	2.8	7.1	201.28	0.44
Pro-line	Trencher 2.8 17mm belted	2.8	8.466	240.01	0.53

 

[Just a Basher]

Thanks! I thought the X's were lighter than the standard 3.8 trenchers. I guess not. You have your number transposed.

My running sheet:

Brand	Tire	Rim Size	Weight (oz)	Grams	lbs
Traxxas	Maxx AllTerrain (0 offset)	3.8	11.5	326.02	0.72
Traxxas	Talons v1 (0 offset)	3.8	9.1	257.98	0.57
Pro-line	Trencher 3.8 (0 offset)	3.8	13.4	379.88	0.84
Pro-line	Trencher X 3.8	3.8	13.651	387.00	0.85
Arrma	Backflips (0 offset)	3.8	12.5	354.37	0.78
Arrma	Minokawa Mt (Kraton v3) 1/2" offset	3.8	10.5	297.67	0.66
Arrma	Katar (talion v2/3 stock)	3.8	7.16	202.98	0.45
Louise RC	t-rock	3.8	9.06	256.85	0.57
Louise RC	ST-Viper	3.8	16.15	457.84	1.01
Pro-line	Trencher 2.8 17mm standard	2.8	7.1	201.28	0.44
Pro-line	Trencher 2.8 17mm belted	2.8	8.466	240.01	0.53

You are awesome. I would buy you a beer, but it'll get cold before you get here.

Have you thought about adding tire diameter and width to the list?

 

[slick2500]

Thanks! I thought the X's were lighter than the standard 3.8 trenchers. I guess not. You have your number transposed.

My running sheet:

Brand	Tire	Rim Size	Weight (oz)	Grams	lbs
Traxxas	Maxx AllTerrain (0 offset)	3.8	11.5	326.02	0.72
Traxxas	Talons v1 (0 offset)	3.8	9.1	257.98	0.57
Pro-line	Trencher 3.8 (0 offset)	3.8	13.4	379.88	0.84
Pro-line	Trencher X 3.8	3.8	13.651	387.00	0.85
Arrma	Backflips (0 offset)	3.8	12.5	354.37	0.78
Arrma	Minokawa Mt (Kraton v3) 1/2" offset	3.8	10.5	297.67	0.66
Arrma	Katar (talion v2/3 stock)	3.8	7.16	202.98	0.45
Louise RC	t-rock	3.8	9.06	256.85	0.57
Louise RC	ST-Viper	3.8	16.15	457.84	1.01
Pro-line	Trencher 2.8 17mm standard	2.8	7.1	201.28	0.44
Pro-line	Trencher 2.8 17mm belted	2.8	8.466	240.01	0.53

Wow @ the Liouse RC at 1.01 lbs. That's per tire right?

 

[olds97_lss]

Wow @ the Liouse RC at 1.01 lbs. That's per tire right?

All of mine are per tire. Either weights of my own on a USPS scale or weights others have posted. I've found that weights are sometimes hard to find online. They tend to list dimensions, but not weight. As I found running the 3.8" trenchers, weight plays a big part of heat issues and with handling, especially when not strapped.

I had a bunch of old 3.2" MT tires from back in the day, but never thought to weigh them. I measured them all and took photo's, but didn't weigh them. I've gotten rid of many and really, who runs 3.2" anymore, so kind of irrelevant.

Also some 2.8" trenchers, 1/8th buggy, traxxas slayer and some 2.2" I used to run on my jato (which now has 2.8" trenchers).

2.8 trenchers next to hatchets, traxxas chevrons, talons:

I ussualy try to take photo's of new tires I get next to tires that are fairly common for others to have a better idea what's what. Something about seeing them next to something familiar helps you decide whether to order them or not. Tires can be a big expense, and if your not able to go to a LHS and see/feel them, it's hard to know if you should buy something. Well, hard for me at least.

SRC next to the traxxas 3.8 t-maxx tires:

Spun a hex in one of the SRC's when they were on my ERBEv1. Not sure why/how. Can't recall if a wheel nut got loose or what. I rarely have that issue as I typically run HPI flanged/axial flanged nuts on traxxas 17mm notched hex's, which tend to bite in pretty good. Can only assume it got loose.

 

[Yonic]

Some on mine you can add

Arrma Pincer 330g
Louise T-Apollo 248g
Arrma Minokawa LP 265g

 

[olds97_lss]

Some on mine you can add

Arrma Pincer 330g
Louise T-Apollo 248g
Arrma Minokawa LP 265g

What size wheel are those? MT/, 1/8th buggy?

 

[Yonic]

All 3.8

 

[olds97_lss]

All 3.8

Assuming the minkawa's are 1/2" offset?

Brand	Tire	Rim Size	Weight (oz)	Grams	lbs
Traxxas	Maxx AllTerrain (0 offset)	3.8	11.5	326.02	0.72
Traxxas	Talons v1 (0 offset)	3.8	9.1	257.98	0.57
Pro-line	Trencher 3.8 (0 offset)	3.8	13.4	379.88	0.84
Pro-line	Trencher X 3.8	3.8	13.651	387.00	0.85
Arrma	Backflips (0 offset)	3.8	12.5	354.37	0.78
Arrma	Katar (talion v2/3 stock)	3.8	7.16	202.98	0.45
Arrma	Minokawa Mt (Kraton v3) 1/2 offset	3.8	10.5	297.67	0.66
Arrma	Minokawa LP (Kraton 4S) 1/2 offset	3.8	9.35	265.07	0.58
Arrma	Pincer	3.8	11.64	329.99	0.73
Louise RC	T-Apollo	3.8	8.75	248.06	0.55
Louise RC	t-rock	3.8	9.06	256.85	0.57
Louise RC	ST-Viper	3.8	16.15	457.84	1.01
Pro-line	Trencher 2.8 17mm standard	2.8	7.1	201.28	0.44
Pro-line	Trencher 2.8 17mm belted	2.8	8.466	240.01	0.53

 

[0verkill]

I applaud Proline for finally making a belted tire after all these years. However, these are going to be SUPER heavy and I have zero interest in them. If you take the same 16.2% weight increase from the belted 2.8's and apply it to the 3.8's, these will have an estimated weight of 462g! Which will lead to an increase of overheating trucks and broken driveline parts.

I'll stick with my original Badlands which are belted on the outside with kevlar braid which weighs 2g. The braid holds up to big power and there's no worry about breaking a line since it can be easily replaced.

 

[Headbangerfacerip]

Im going to buy them soon. I'll put up a real review to let people know cause i can't find anything. I race usgt and tc so i want my basher to be more responsive and predictable on the ground so I'm going to try them. And seriously i can't believe so many people think they are expensive. Normal ones are 100$ so thats already expensive.

 

[jondilly1974]

I’m not liking my 2.8 Belted Trenchers at all. It’s really hard to get my Kraton 4s to rotate at all with them. No problems when using my Badlands MX28s. Really disappointed in this purchase.

 

[Headbangerfacerip]

I’m not liking my 2.8 Belted Trenchers at all. It’s really hard to get my Kraton 4s to rotate at all with them. No problems when using my Badlands MX28s. Really disappointed in this purchase.

Can't you just hit the jump with better throttle control so you don't need to try to fix it in the air?

 

[crimsonfancy]

Assuming the minkawa's are 1/2" offset?

Brand	Tire	Rim Size	Weight (oz)	Grams	lbs
Traxxas	Maxx AllTerrain (0 offset)	3.8	11.5	326.02	0.72
Traxxas	Talons v1 (0 offset)	3.8	9.1	257.98	0.57
Pro-line	Trencher 3.8 (0 offset)	3.8	13.4	379.88	0.84
Pro-line	Trencher X 3.8	3.8	13.651	387.00	0.85
Arrma	Backflips (0 offset)	3.8	12.5	354.37	0.78
Arrma	Katar (talion v2/3 stock)	3.8	7.16	202.98	0.45
Arrma	Minokawa Mt (Kraton v3) 1/2 offset	3.8	10.5	297.67	0.66
Arrma	Minokawa LP (Kraton 4S) 1/2 offset	3.8	9.35	265.07	0.58
Arrma	Pincer	3.8	11.64	329.99	0.73
Louise RC	T-Apollo	3.8	8.75	248.06	0.55
Louise RC	t-rock	3.8	9.06	256.85	0.57
Louise RC	ST-Viper	3.8	16.15	457.84	1.01
Pro-line	Trencher 2.8 17mm standard	2.8	7.1	201.28	0.44
Pro-line	Trencher 2.8 17mm belted	2.8	8.466	240.01	0.53

@olds97_lss , do you have weight data on the Backflips vs Backflips LP (or vs Katar?) I'm considering BF LP for the Talion because imo, the standard heavy Backflips make it pretty much less a Talion anymore. The Katars I love for the light weight but cringe when I send it and noticing on my current set they're growing off balance and will need to replace. I ruined six individual Katars so far and still love em...just interested in a basher replacement to switch back and forth.

 

[jondilly1974]

Can't you just hit the jump with better throttle control so you don't need to try to fix it in the air?

I like to flip my truck in the air. Double backflips are no problem with the Badlands but a single backflip with the Trenchers has yet to happen. Also, the traction on the Trenchers is way less than the Badlands on every surface I’ve tried. I want to try the Backflip LPs soon and compare them to the Badlands, but so far, Badlands are my favorite bashing tire.

 

[slick2500]

I like to flip my truck in the air. Double backflips are no problem with the Badlands but a single backflip with the Trenchers has yet to happen. Also, the traction on the Trenchers is way less than the Badlands on every surface I’ve tried. I want to try the Backflip LPs soon and compare them to the Badlands, but so far, Badlands are my favorite bashing tire.

I run "Badlands" tires on my 3s Typhon and my LC Racing truggy really nice tires. I wish someone made 2.8 "Badlands" so I could buy some for my 1/10 MTs. I'm cheap lol. My LC Racing MT has "Trenchers" and I don't really care for them, the "Badlands" are much better.

 

[crimsonfancy]

I run "Badlands" tires on my 3s Typhon and my LC Racing truggy really nice tires. I wish someone made 2.8 "Badlands" so I could buy some for my 1/10 MTs. I'm cheap lol. My LC Racing MT has "Trenchers" and I don't really care for them, the "Badlands" are much better.

Not sure I'm understand the quotes but 2.8 PL Badlands are common? Also on the Granite, standard Trenchers are no prob for flips. The Belted ones I have though, not impressed and came unglued on my Typhon before I tested on a 1:10 truck.

 

[slick2500]

Not sure I'm understand the quotes but 2.8 PL Badlands are common? Also on the Granite, standard Trenchers are no prob for flips. The Belted ones I have though, not impressed and came unglued on my Typhon before I tested on a 1:10 truck.

The quotes mean they are knockoffs lol.
"Badlands" for my Typhon https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-8-Big-Blocks-BSK-Pre-Mounted-1-8-Buggy-Tires-Glued-/312561800819

"Badlands" for my LC Racing https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-10-RC-Of...sh=item419a8c251d:g:hZkAAOSwu4BVwTaz&LH_BIN=1

"Trenchers" for my LC Racing http://casterracingmi.com/index.php...uct_id=1757&sort=p.price&order=DESC&limit=100