TP 5670CM questions

[Dan B.]

The 5670 is the largest motor I can fit in my build at 102mm. When you look at the TPPower website under specs for this motor it shows “4-pole/6-pole”?!?! I’ve contacted TP twice (no response since before thanksgiving) and contacted RMamba as well today. RMamba says these are also available as sensored motors. Anyone know of these being available in a 4-pole design? I’m thinking a 4-pole sensored 5670CM would pair perfectly with my XLX2.

 

[Moirae]

I think tp website was an error.

 

[Dan B.]

I think tp website was an error.

I’m hoping not. There are other 56xx motors out there in 4-pole. And I think the 5670CM is relatively new, right? I hope it’s not an error.

 

[Diem Turner]

I asked TP the same thing. It's a typo. The 56xx and 58xx are all 6-pole without exception.

I can tell you with 100% certainty...if there was a 4-pole large can TP, it would already long be part of my collection. Sorry to burst the bubble, but I can empathize. I called that bubble my home for a few days/weeks too

 

[Dan B.]

Dammit.

 

[Moirae]

What is this build for? You could always get a leopard motor if you really want 4 pole.

 

[Dan B.]

What is this build for? You could always get a leopard motor if you really want 4 pole.

Speed run car. I’ve looked at the Leopards, price point is certainly attractive. Non-sensored though. I guess I’ll be choosing between a sensored TP 5670 in 6-pole or a non-sensored Leopard in 4-pole. I’m not sure why some have such great luck with those big TP 6-poles and others have fits when trying to run them with an XLX2. I want the sensored TP 5670, but I don’t want a ton of issues running it.

 

[Moirae]

Speed run car. I’ve looked at the Leopards, price point is certainly attractive. Non-sensored though. I guess I’ll be choosing between a sensored TP 5670 in 6-pole or a non-sensored Leopard in 4-pole. I’m not sure why some have such great luck with those big TP 6-poles and others have fits when trying to run them with an XLX2. I want the sensored TP 5670, but I don’t want a ton of issues running it.

I will say my sensored tp 5650 1720 kv has been just fine with my xlx 2. I'd say yolo the tp motor. I don't think anyone who has had problems with the 6 pole xlx2 stuff was using sensored.

 

[LibertyMKiii]

I’m hoping not. There are other 56xx motors out there in 4-pole. And I think the 5670CM is relatively new, right? I hope it’s not an error.

All TP motors in the 56mm and 58mm diameter ranges are 6-pole sadly.
The additional poles add torque but the ESC does not like high KV.

I have seen mixed reviews on what KV is too much. Some say anything over 1400 others say 1700 is the high end.
Either way they have tons of torque.

 

[LibertyMKiii]

I never ran this setup more than about 60mph on my residential street.... How well it will perform or what it is capable of I will never know.
BUT it ran so smoothly with no cogging. I was really impressed with how it felt.
I had it geared aggressively for 150-ish mph with a 44T pinion and 29t spur.

Leopard 5692 1340kv

Go big or go home with the 10 pole TP 100 https://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=tp-100

 

[Moirae]

I never ran this setup more than about 60mph on my residential street.... How well it will perform or what it is capable of I will never know.
BUT it ran so smoothly with no cogging. I was really impressed with how it felt.
I had it geared aggressively for 150-ish mph with a 44T pinion and 29t spur.

Leopard 5692 1340kv


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Go big or go home with the 10 pole TP 100 https://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=tp-100

I actually have the 5882 1360kv leopard in one of my felony and I have to agree with you. They're easy on the esc too. I actually liked it more than the castle 1717 I had in there before.

 

[Dan B.]

I think I’m going to try the sensored 5670 TP.
I seriously appreciate the feedback, guys. Especially @LibertyMKiii @K-BASH @Diem Turner and @Moirae I’m probably going to try a Leopard motor in another build I’m doing. I keep hearing really good things about them and the price point is great.
Thanks again!
Ya‘ll will be seeing a couple NIB motors on classifieds soon.

 

[K-BASH]

Believe me when I say this,you want a low kv motor or you'll have a hard time controlling it..my next motor will be lower kv than I've been running,I'm looking at 1010kv,or 1170kv..how else is the fastest going that fast in such a short distance???????900kv big cans Re the way I believe..all his 190+ runs are a tp big cans.LOW RPMS(AMP DRAW),ALL TORQUE..I Can Cleary tell by the way car sounds.id be interested in that 1170kv you have when ,if your ready to sell,

 

[LibertyMKiii]

I think I’m going to try the sensored 5670 TP.
I seriously appreciate the feedback, guys. Especially @LibertyMKiii @K-BASH @Diem Turner and @Moirae I’m probably going to try a Leopard motor in another build I’m doing. I keep hearing really good things about them and the price point is great.
Thanks again!
Ya‘ll will be seeing a couple NIB motors on classifieds soon.

As an FYI on quality....
I spoke with a guy that re-winds motors about making a custom leopard motor with higher KV.
He has taken all the different brand motors apart and said the Leopard is pretty good, but they use a lower-grade copper wire that does not handle heat as well as something like TP Power's copper wire.

 

[Dan B.]

As an FYI on quality....
I spoke with a guy that re-winds motors about making a custom leopard motor with higher KV.
He has taken all the different brand motors apart and said the Leopard is pretty good, but they use a lower-grade copper wire that does not handle heat as well as something like TP Power's copper wire.

Good to know, thank you. The more I learn from you guys the more I realize how much I still have to learn!

 

[justin080]

watch raz his video today, he smokes his xlx2 with 6 pole 5670

 

[Dan B.]

watch raz his video today, he smokes his xlx2 with 6 pole 5670

I saw that. There’s some good discussion on this thread.
https://www.arrmaforum.com/threads/tp-5670cm-2510kv-takes-out-xlx2.58170/#post-855950