3D Print Support Issue

[Donovan]

Ok, so I printed a support test using the adjustments Camaroboy383 and Tex Koder suggested and the quality is definitely better, but is there

anything that I can do to make it look even better?

 

[Tex Koder]

Ok, so I printed a support test using the adjustments Camaroboy383 and Tex Koder suggested and the quality is definitely better, but is thereView attachment 305917View attachment 305916 anything that I can do to make it look even better?

Yes, always try to orientate your parts in a way that will avoid ANY supports.
If that's not possible then try to design your parts with some bevel on areas that should reduce the amount of support needed.

 

[rotauq]

Might be a stupid suggestion, but have you tried the latest creality slicer instead of Cura?
Eventhough it also runs on the cura engine, i've experienced simular quality degrading ever since cura 5.1~ish on my ender 3v2
i switched back to creality slicer a couple of months ago with 'slightly' better results

 

[Camaroboy383]

Ok, so I printed a support test using the adjustments Camaroboy383 and Tex Koder suggested and the quality is definitely better, but is thereView attachment 305917View attachment 305916 anything that I can do to make it look even better?

Still looks like a .2 layer height no?

 

[Tex Koder]

Still looks like a .2 layer height no?

Good observation.

 

[Donovan]

Still looks like a .2 layer height no?

The layer height is .2, but the Support Z Distance is .12.

Might be a stupid suggestion, but have you tried the latest creality slicer instead of Cura?
Eventhough it also runs on the cura engine, i've experienced simular quality degrading ever since cura 5.1~ish on my ender 3v2
i switched back to creality slicer a couple of months ago with 'slightly' better results

I'll check it out, I just figured it was exactly the same as Cura.

 

[Camaroboy383]

The layer height is .2, but the Support Z Distance is .12.

I'll check it out, I just figured it was exactly the same as Cura.

Ok let me reiterate... Cura will not allow a lower support z height than the layer height..

Meaning you printing at .2 it defaults to a .2 z support gap.. if the number is lower than layer height it rounds up... To get a .12 z support gap the layer height needs to be the same or lower..

 

[Tex Koder]

Ok let me reiterate... Cura will not allow a lower support z height than the layer height..

Meaning you printing at .2 it defaults to a .2 z support gap.. if the number is lower than layer height it rounds up... To get a .12 z support gap the layer height needs to be the same or lower..

I'm going to have to write that down so I'll remember that point!

Thank you.

 

[Camaroboy383]

I'm coming to have to write that down so I'll remember that point!

Thank you.

For some reason it's been like that forever, and never fixed.. but even if it was it would need to be a multiple of layer height... So a .12 would never work as it's not even in the ballpark of even steps..

 

[Donovan]

Ok let me reiterate... Cura will not allow a lower support z height than the layer height..

Meaning you printing at .2 it defaults to a .2 z support gap.. if the number is lower than layer height it rounds up... To get a .12 z support gap the layer height needs to be the same or lower..

Wow, that makes a lot of sense. I'll print a new test!

 

[Donovan]

Just printed a new support test at .12 layer height, looks pretty good, I imagine that's as good as it'll get.

 

[Camaroboy383]

Just printed a new support test at .12 layer height, looks pretty good, I imagine that's as good as it'll get.View attachment 306162View attachment 306163

It is definitely heading in the right direction and is much cleaner.. .. so next try upping your support roof density to 100.. it should make that upper square pad cleaner on the first layer..

I believe the half ball/ cone is about as good as it's going to get aside from going to a .06 layer height

 

[Donovan]

It is definitely heading in the right direction and is much cleaner.. .. so next try upping your support roof density to 100.. it should make that upper square pad cleaner on the first layer..

I believe the half ball/ cone is about as good as it's going to get aside from going to a .06 layer height

The support roof density in the picture was 100%.

 

[Camaroboy383]

The support roof density in the picture was 100%.

View attachment 306175

While your setting is set at 100 that is not 100 percent.. so are you still on a grid pattern?..

 

[Camaroboy383]

Oh, support roof and support interface are enabled correct?.. roof being the most important..

 

[Donovan]

Oh, support roof and support interface are enabled correct?.. roof being the most important..

Yes, support interface is enabled