ESC Opinion: Knock off or real deal

[RCBro80]

Does anyone have experience with some of the 'hobbywing' ESC's from AliExpress or other Chinese sites?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...DlnE_xlioYTXHWUO56waAoiyEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Is this one of those knock offs that will basically go straight to the garbage, or a viable cost savings option if I'm willing to wait for the long ocean voyage?

 

[olds97_lss]

Did you not see this on your link? It's in plain 'chinglish' I couldn't say it any better ?
In short, the packaging is slightly different.


" RTR version of the ESC: RTR version of the ESC is factory direct production to the car model factory supply of electricity, such as Wo Bao hsp this car model factory direct supply version, the appearance and function of the ESC is no difference, the main Is the packaging, because it is directly to the car model factory so the factory does not provide original box packaging, only a simple packaging,100% Brand New. (Contain T plugs, banana head, heat shrinkable tube, double-sided adhesive)"

Nope, missed that on the site. Reading it is giving me an aneurysm though. lol!

 

[slick2500]

Nope, missed that on the site. Reading it is giving me an aneurysm though. lol!

It also only has a 6v bec.

 

[olds97_lss]

It also only has a 6v bec.

The Max 8 RTR one says it's 6/7.4V

150A ESC WP-MAX8-RTR

• Super internal switch-mode BEC with switchable voltage of 6V/7.4V and a co nt./peak current of 6A/15A for easily driving big torque servos and high voltage servos.

 

[slick2500]

The Max 8 RTR one says it's 6/7.4V

Oh god I read that wrong, where it says 6a I thought it said 6v my bad.

Oh and lied above, Hobbywing makes those rtr escs for other brands as well, I just noticed the Sworkz Fox 4x4 uses the WP-10BL50 esc.
And I am almost positive the esc that @olds97_lss posted is the one that comes in the Sworkz Zeus MT.
I tried watching a review for the Zeus the other day and I gave up because the translator was horible.

 

[slick2500]

Anyone know the difference between the max8 and max8 rtr on there?
max8: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001336471279.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.46.75654876yseqSk
max8 RTR: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001329389602.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.22.1f33aa95Dh1rDP

Would mind replacing the blx185 in my stampede... I can't calibrate it and I don't know why.

The cheaper yet WP-8BL150 would likely be enough for what I want, but the adjustable BEC would be the only thing I wouldn't mind from the max8 or max8 RTR I posted above.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001311923580.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.4.1f33aa95Dh1rDP

I'll be the guinea pig for one of these https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001329536857.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000060.2.1a233728Mq25zQ&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.169870.0&scm_id=1007.13339.169870.0&scm-url=1007.13339.169870.0&pvid=94eeb7e3-d30f-4bba-94f7-afb012f614e5&_t=gps-idcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller,scm-url:1007.13339.169870.0,pvid:94eeb7e3-d30f-4bba-94f7-afb012f614e5,tpp_buckets:668#0#131923#99_668#888#3325#2_668#2846#8108#1977_668#2717#7564#603_668#1000022185#1000066058#0_668#3468#15615#641

-edit- this one is even cheaper https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...68#1000022185#1000066058#0_668#3468#15609#246

 

[TimePancake]

I'll be the guinea pig for one of these https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001329536857.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000060.2.1a233728Mq25zQ&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.169870.0&scm_id=1007.13339.169870.0&scm-url=1007.13339.169870.0&pvid=94eeb7e3-d30f-4bba-94f7-afb012f614e5&_t=gps-idcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller,scm-url:1007.13339.169870.0,pvid:94eeb7e3-d30f-4bba-94f7-afb012f614e5,tpp_buckets:668#0#131923#99_668#888#3325#2_668#2846#8108#1977_668#2717#7564#603_668#1000022185#1000066058#0_668#3468#15615#641

-edit- this one is even cheaper https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001329543453.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0.3a0d5c38Wu5j4m&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.169870.0&scm_id=1007.13339.169870.0&scm-url=1007.13339.169870.0&pvid=a15a7767-1746-446f-bc20-84dbcfeb0825&_t=gps-idcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller,scm-url:1007.13339.169870.0,pvid:a15a7767-1746-446f-bc20-84dbcfeb0825,tpp_buckets:668#0#131923#59_668#888#3325#2_668#2846#8108#1977_668#2717#7564#603_668#1000022185#1000066058#0_668#3468#15609#246

The first link you posted says up to 8s.! Might have to ask KT to try one, he knows what to do if it doesn't go well ?️

 

[slick2500]

The first link you posted says up to 8s.! Might have to ask KT to try one, he knows what to do if it doesn't go well ?️

They are both Max6 rebrands I didn't even notice that the second one was only up to 6s.

 

[Coopie56]

Does anyone have experience with some of the 'hobbywing' ESC's from AliExpress or other Chinese sites?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...DlnE_xlioYTXHWUO56waAoiyEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Is this one of those knock offs that will basically go straight to the garbage, or a viable cost savings option if I'm willing to wait for the long ocean voyage?

I have bought both the Max6 and Max5 from AliExpress and been very happy with them both. They came in a fully branded HobbyWing box right down to the hologram stickers . Identical to the stuff I can buy at my ‘local’ hobby shop.

 

[OleManTan]

I think my esc is messed up, will this get me up and running again: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400...earchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

 

[slick2500]

I think my esc is messed up, will this get me up and running again: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400...earchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

Negative sir those esc's are known for being
Stick with the Hobbywing, Hobbywing rebrands or Castle.

 

[L3phturn]

I think my esc is messed up, will this get me up and running again: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400...earchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

I have a burned one of those in my shop. They are low quality and very much NOT waterproof or even splash proof. On the other hand I have not managed to kill the $20 TSky 120a "TRex" I run in my son's ECX Amp MT running a 3,300 kv 3650 Surpass motor. It does 70+ Kph but it's a light 2WD 1/10 scale truck. I bought two expecting to kill one, but so far I have not hurt it despite running mostly on 3S. If you do get a cheap one like this, grab some dielectric grease and/or liquid electrical tape and put it on the external connections where the motor, power, and cap pack wires are soldered. Use the grease around the fan and programming port. I've had much better luck with Banggood (and faster shipping) than with AliExpress - but AliExpress has a better selection of ESCs and motors - especially the Rocket motors which I like.

TSKY 120A 1/10 1/8 6v ESC Senseless Brushless/Sense Brushless RC Car Part
https://banggood.app.link/8sdeelqAmdb

 

[slick2500]

I have a burned one of those in my shop. They are low quality and very much NOT waterproof or even splash proof. On the other hand I have not managed to kill the $20 TSky 120a "TRex" I run in my son's ECX Amp MT running a 3,300 kv 3650 Surpass motor. It does 70+ Kph but it's a light 2WD 1/10 scale truck. I bought two expecting to kill one, but so far I have not hurt it despite running mostly on 3S. If you do get a cheap one like this, grab some dielectric grease and/or liquid electrical tape and put it on the external connections where the motor, power, and cap pack wires are soldered. Use the grease around the fan and programming port. I've had much better luck with Banggood (and faster shipping) than with AliExpress - but AliExpress has a better selection of ESCs and motors - especially the Rocket motors which I like.

TSKY 120A 1/10 1/8 6v ESC Senseless Brushless/Sense Brushless RC Car Part
https://banggood.app.link/8sdeelqAmdb

I had one of those in my Ruckus for about a year or so then one day it just wouldn't turn on anymore.

 

[L3phturn]

I had one of those in my Ruckus for about a year or so then one day it just wouldn't turn on anymore.

I expect that result, but for $24 Canadian... ok. I have a spare anyway.

 

[OleManTan]

Thinking about trying this while I get a replacement. https://www.ebay.com/itm/120A-Brush...:g:Ia8AAOSw6~dfH7Px&LH_BIN=1&autorefresh=true Says it's one town over so it should ship quick. I messaged the seller some questions.

 

[slick2500]

Thinking about trying this while I get a replacement. https://www.ebay.com/itm/120A-Brushless-ESC-Electric-Speed-Controller-Accessories-for-1-8-1-10-RC-Car/373045125896?epid=8042990140&hash=item56db38e308:g:Ia8AAOSw6~dfH7Px&LH_BIN=1&autorefresh=true Says it's one town over so it should ship quick. I messaged the seller some questions.

That's the esc that myself and @L3phturn were talking about, when mine worked it worked great. And a little secret if you use version V3.52.02 of the Hobbywing software and this adapter https://hobbyking.com/en_us/usb-pro...990&indexName=hbk_live_magento_en_us_products you can upload Hobbywing firmware to it and use the software to adjust the program settings. Do note that that adapter will not work with any of the Hobbywing or Arrma escs I tried.

 

[OleManTan]

Thanks! So I really wanted to get my car running and the blue esc would take a week on ebay and on amazon they have it for $25 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...7&pd_rd_w=03aWU&pd_rd_wg=AuP11&ref_=pd_gw_unk but it doesn't have the motor wire sockets in the picture so that would set me back so I just bought the $50 goolrc 120a off amazon to get me running https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VCR47RP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Seems to work, can't wait to rip it. I also found out my chassis is cracked. I'm still going to order the cheap one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/120A-Brushless-ESC-Electric-Speed-Controller-Accessories-for-1-8-1-10-RC-Car/373045125896?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2763.l2649
I used two pieces of double sticky tape to mount the new one and the new switch since it didn't have mounting holes.

Those are traxxas chrome turnbuckles and traxxas aluminum buckles. My buddy crashed into the side of me doing full speed and I'm surprised only the rod end broke off shearing the rod. So I put traxxas links on there. Then I went back and bought the aluminum hop up kit after looking up lengths of the rods online. I didn't like how the oem black coating turned to rust lol.

 

[OleManTan]

Good news! I got a refund on the esc I bought, yay! But I think I need to program it because it doesn't have top speed. Not sure which programming card to get. The rcharlance 120a esc looks like a hobbywing EZRUN-SC8 knockoff. Funny thing is, when you open the amazon link to the esc, they're changed the name to 80a lol. Anyone help me out with the program card?
I think this should work:https://www.amazon.com/RCRunning-Pr...lance+program+card&qid=1612673095&sr=8-3&th=1
It looks like the chart from the esc manual.

 

[jkflow]

Programming has nothing or little to do with top speed.
You need to do a throttle range adjust per manual, the ESC has to know what full throttle is, based on your configuration.

 

[OleManTan]

Programming has nothing or little to do with top speed.
You need to do a throttle range adjust per manual, the ESC has to know what full throttle is, based on your configuration.

How do I do this now that I have this switch on the esc:

They are just two push buttons. Either, or, turns it on or off. I can't figure it out.

 

[SrC]

And to add to my post above, Redcat also has a 10BL50 esc and a Max10 SCT RTR 80a 3s esc. The 10BL50 worked great in my RC10B2 until I accidentally plugged my hardcase lipo in backwards

Ali has the 80 RTR esc https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001329217759.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000060.1.4f2321acTV3LcZ&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.169870.0&scm_id=1007.13339.169870.0&scm-url=1007.13339.169870.0&pvid=cee72e2d-d0e8-45c3-9444-55241f5e0401&_t=gps-idcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller,scm-url:1007.13339.169870.0,pvid:cee72e2d-d0e8-45c3-9444-55241f5e0401,tpp_buckets:668#0#131923#81_668#888#3325#2_668#2846#8108#1977_668#2717#7564#603_668#1000022185#1000066059#0_668#3468#15607#39 I think I would spend the extra $6 and just get the 120a version though.

I only use the 10BL120's. Just makes sense in my 1/10 stuff off road and on road. Not HWNA certified, but I haven't any issues. It is legit, just got purchased through non warrantiable channels. That's all. These are low priced ESC's anyway. I wouldn't invest in $100.+ HW ESC's this way however. I usually get the HW NA ESC's for warranty purposes. Warranties expire anyway. HW Global or NA, at some price point makes sense to get what's cheaper. IDK. It's your wallet and gamble. We all make those judgements calls.

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How do I do this now that I have this switch on the esc:
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They are just two push buttons. Either, or, turns it on or off. I can't figure it out.

That's a 2 wire switch. There is no set button. That's how I see that switch. I have that same ESC but different single sliding switch (2 wire also) In the picture above OFF is clearly there. The other button must be ON. I use a prog. card that came with mine for resetting and programming.