there not as good as the 6s backflips and they do come unglued a lot think its because they are more of a 4s tyre reallyI laugh everytime someone says backflip lps are durable, I guess everything is subjective though
Nice paint job
I'd love to see LP's with a thicker sidewall, that's where they fail on me. The MT's seem to have a thicker sidewall, but they do come unglued on me.. goes to show how much differently we use our rigs I guess..
I like the copperhead 2 on my 6s kraton but the foams are totally crap the backflip lp foams seem really good never had a problem with thoseNice paint job
I'd love to see LP's with a thicker sidewall, that's where they fail on me. The MT's seem to have a thicker sidewall, but they do come unglued on me.. goes to show how much differently we use our rigs I guess..
I was tempted to try my LP's on the Mojo but, between hacking the body and already seeing signs of sidewall tears, nah.
I suppose the Mojo Fortress tires are similar to the Katar-T's in regards to footprint and tread pattern? The Fortess tires do have a taller lug though. Grip is similar on hard pack, both are tough as nails too. My Fortress tires have never needed to be reglued.. they're the ONLY tires that I've ever used for so long without the need for glue, say 2.5 years now? A couple of the wheels are wobbling a bit but
I hit one of those quite a distance away in a large grassy field. The worse carnage my K6 ever got. Chassis and all. Iremeber my ESC and lipo/tray all ripped out. Its a great basher spot, but now I stand rightthere on now it, so I never hit it again.don't like those two metal hoops sticking out the ground
Damn I am still runnning my V1 Mojo OE Boxed Fortresses too. Some years old now. I got a replacement set when it was new. They are still in the packaging. If I can wear out a set of any RC tires till they are Bald, I feel I did good.Nice paint job
I'd love to see LP's with a thicker sidewall, that's where they fail on me. The MT's seem to have a thicker sidewall, but they do come unglued on me.. goes to show how much differently we use our rigs I guess..
I was tempted to try my LP's on the Mojo but, between hacking the body and already seeing signs of sidewall tears, nah.
I suppose the Mojo Fortress tires are similar to the Katar-T's in regards to footprint and tread pattern? The Fortess tires do have a taller lug though. Grip is similar on hard pack, both are tough as nails too. My Fortress tires have never needed to be reglued.. they're the ONLY tires that I've ever used for so long without the need for glue, say 2.5 years now? A couple of the wheels are wobbling a bit but
Seeing is believing, I'll take your word for it on sidewall thickness between LP's and MT's. For whatever reason, the MT sidewalls "feel" thicker butI hit one of those quite a distance away in a large grassy field. The worse carnage my K6 ever got. Chassis and all. Iremeber my ESC and lipo/tray all ripped out. Its a great basher spot, but now I stand rightthere on now it, so I never hit it again.
Damn I am still runnning my V1 Mojo OE Boxed Fortresses too. Some years old now. I got a replacement set when it was new. They are still in the packaging. If I can wear out a set of any RC tires till they are Bald, I feel I did good.
I saw pix of Opened and Torn up BF Lp's and also 6s BF's, and although the wheels are identical last I checked, The LP's looked to be of thicker rubber. And the LP Foams are different and way better.
I always vent my my non belted tires and balance them.
I keep them dry also. Or the foams will get wet , dry rot, get moldy, and screw up the whole tire. It's just not good for Open Cell foam to get wet. Wish they were all Closed cell foam. But that costs more $$ to make them that way.
We're extremely rough on sidewalls in my camp, throwing rigs into turns at speed tends to shred.. is what it is. The Fortress (6s) have been immune to it though..I'm with ya, discarding tires/wheels with good tread left on them keeps me up at night!! (Not really, but) definitely chafes my arse though.
I definitely agree. My kraton tires turned into poop after a while. I don't know if I got them wet some how or what but I've never had that happen with 6s backflips.
I've experienced foam failures of some degree on most all tires..likely from water, I have a fetish for snow bashing
Amen to that! Pure rubbish!! My brother and I have 2 complete sets of Xmaxx "flat" tires..tread like new..
possibly the worses foams ever used in an rc tire..Nice rips!! Gives a good comparison of grip and air control. I think the backflips performed better, although the Katars are definitely more durable. Can't decide?
Get both I did
bet there not cheap either 1/5 scale tires
I couldn't get hardly any air control with the katars thats why I changed to the LPs
Thank you Brother! Great comparison for me. I wish I were your neighbor nice backyard spot to bash and unwind there!
Why non belted instead of belted?
It felt like the rubber became really soft. Is that from water? what do you think?I've experienced foam failures of some degree on most all tires..likely from water, I have a fetish for snow bashing
Sealing the wheels and venting the tires helps, next I plan on trying to keep them closed right up.. may end up bouncy but I can remove tape from the wheels for dry season at least, if it doesn't blow right off.
Haha backflip 6s tires have actually been really durable for me. I don't even have to reglue them often and I run them in rigs geared 70 to 80 mph. I absolutely love them! Backflip lp's explode with the same gearing, I went through a lot of them before I gave up. I did like the handling with them but I also don't dislike the handling with the 6s backflipsMoirae kind of runs the XLX2 in a Granite on 12S. So he needs lots of glue.
- Overgearing is one thing. Ken Block once said it's easy to ruin a Desert Racer truck in 15 minutes. The trick is not to do so. Higher centrifugal force needs beadlock tires (instead of glue) and thicker side walls.
- Tread is the other. I think the Backflip LPs 4s last pretty long when it comes to tread and gearing of max 80 - 85km/h. And it makes sense to have 300k+ oil in the center diff to reduce ballooning in the front. Thinner center diff oil will just unglue the front tires in a short time.
For me, I was thinking I ruined them in the snow, I did close the holes in the wheels with hot glue. Then vented the tires..still went flat
Weight and handling IMO are much better running the non belted Katars off road. High speed driving on asphalt was the only place I felt the belted katars were better than the non belted version
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