Talion What upgraded motor and esc combo are you using in your talion?

[surfingSEMINOLE]

Hey everyone! I am looking to build a talion 6s exb type rig from scratch.

Going with the m2c talion exb chassis along with several m2c parts (not sure if i will try for the entire beefcake package).

For those who have upgraded your electronics, what motor and esc combos are you running?

I only plan on running 4s and 6s for speed bashing on all types of surfaces and have heard sometimes going with an 8s capable motor and esc can get you great performance with no heating issues.

Would the Castle 1717 1650kv with Mamba Monster X8s be overkill even if I just run 6s? Will both those fit in a Talion exb chassis?

Would the mmx8 work well with the castle 1515 2200kv?

Only looking at castle and hobbywing motors atm, and seem to be leaning towards the castle, but am open to hearing about your experiences.

Let me know your thoughts as the project is still in the brainstorming process haha!

Thanks in advance, cheers!

 

[Moirae]

Personally I think the MMX8S 1717 1650kv combo is a great choice.

 

[GraniteFox]

Max6 combo. Runs great. Both HW and Castle systems are solid. No bad choice.

 

[morrjr71]

I have the MMX 8s 1717 1650kv system in my Kraton 6s. I can't say enough good things about this combo: it's fast, it has a lot of punch, and it runs cool.

 

[dure16]

The right combo depends on your goals. MMX8S/1717 is what I’d recommend for crazy power and typical bashing. It’s fantastic but it’s also heavy.

However if you want a little more power while keeping the car lightweight and nimble, maybe try out a 4082 class motor. You may even be able to keep the stock ESC.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BWSHJ7JM?ref_=cm_sw_r_apin_dp_49CJK7S3JWHAVXDSB124

http://www.tppowerusa.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=314

 

[jkflow]

For the Talion, I suggest M2C chassis, towers, rear shock tower brace (you will have to drill) and the Ackerman plate. Nothing else needed.

Max 6 - not recommended from my side, ESC overheats quickly (maybe 5-8min), the motor is heavy. I'm using one in my Kraton and ditched that ESC a long time ago.

Castle seems to be ok

My Talion is on stock electronics, just added 2 fans to the motor. Usually in grass and it's a blast.

 

[KevinC]

I have two Talions, an EXB and a scratch built one.
Both hobbywing max6, one with a HW 1650, one with a hobbystar 1730.

cheers,
kev

 

[#ARRMArcfanboy4life]

max6 combo, MMX8s combo, max8 + 4092. These are the 3 best combos. You really can't go wrong with these.

 

[Garcbomber]

Another suggestion and by far the most dynamic for power to weight and adjustability is the max 8g2 combo with a 4278-2200kv motor. The Talion has a great Cg and balanced layout, don’t ruin it with a monster truck 8S system

 

[Avyn Nix]

The mmx8s and 1717 1650kv is a great choice and the mmx8s with the 1520 1650kv motor is also great.

 

[BrokenBasher]

I’m in the same boat as you but have a roller as a donor instead of doing it from scratch. Also looking to do a high speed basher as well but a lighter weight and extended build.

I’m considering a TP motor and a MMX8s.

https://www.tppowerusa.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=20_135_150&product_id=449

 

[Moirae]

I’m in the same boat as you but have a roller as a donor instead of doing it from scratch. Also looking to do a high speed basher as well but a lighter weight and extended build.

I’m considering a TP motor and a MMX8s.

https://www.tppowerusa.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=20_135_150&product_id=449

This is whats in my talion now but a tp 4070 2080kv. It's a monster!

 

[BrokenBasher]

This is whats in my talion now but a tp 4070 2080kv. It's a monster!

How do you like it? What hearing do you use on the rig and approximate speed and temps are you running?

 

[dure16]

How do you like it? What hearing do you use on the rig and approximate speed and temps are you running?

I don't think he really likes TP motors

 

[surfingSEMINOLE]

I’m in the same boat as you but have a roller as a donor instead of doing it from scratch. Also looking to do a high speed basher as well but a lighter weight and extended build.

I’m considering a TP motor and a MMX8s.

https://www.tppowerusa.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=20_135_150&product_id=449

Nice recommendation, I want to keep the weight down, and it looks like that TP motor is 8s capable but 122 grams lighter than the Castle 1717 I was looking at!

Even though I only plan on running 6s i like the idea of 8s capable to keep down temps and have plenty of gearing options.

 

[BrokenBasher]

Nice recommendation, I want to keep the weight down, and it looks like that TP motor is 8s capable but 122 grams lighter than the Castle 1717 I was looking at!

Even though I only plan on running 6s i like the idea of 8s capable to keep down temps and have plenty of gearing options.

That’s my thought about the temps and then if you want to do a speed run you can gear up and run 8s.

If you do decide on a castle motor I would lean personally towards a 1520 as it’s 90 grams lighter. I personally want a higher KV motor though.

 

[TotalBub]

I have the MMX 8s 1717 1650kv system in my Kraton 6s. I can't say enough good things about this combo: it's fast, it has a lot of punch, and it runs cool.

What size pinion are you running? I just dropped one of these systems in my EXB. Starting off with a 20T but have a Tekno 23T sitting on the workbench feeling left out lol

 

[dure16]

What size pinion are you running? I just dropped one of these systems in my EXB. Starting off with a 20T but have a Tekno 23T sitting on the workbench feeling left out lol

I run a 19T with that combo in my heavy Kraton. No motor fan. I'm happy with it.

 

[morrjr71]

What size pinion are you running? I just dropped one of these systems in my EXB. Starting off with a 20T but have a Tekno 23T sitting on the workbench feeling left out lol

I run a 20T Tekno pinion in my Kraton 6s. For most weather, the motor runs so cool I don't need a fan on the motor. I have a fan for the times it gets into the upper eighties or nineties and I run the Kraton hard.

 

[hobo]

standard 150a hobbywing esc and stock motor in both my talion's well enough power for me