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Great point. I had my fireteam out a few days ago and runtime was 50% of normal.The amount of Amp draw due to the bite of Paddles is enormous in the thick wet stuff. Lower Gearing should be considered. Temps still need to be checked even though it is quite cold out there.
Absolutely! My Kraton and Notorious are beasts in the snow with the ProLine 3.8 Slingshots. Unfortunately, those are discontinued but I'm pretty sure the ProLine Dumonts would be almost as effective. Rooster tails await you my friend.kraton 8s with proline badlands did not do well in snow
+1Yeah, snow bashing is limited for me. I enjoy it, but too deep or fluffy kinda ruins it. Plus the constant, or near constant full throttle is hell on electronics/batteries.. paddles will keep it moving, but if you stop in deep snow, they just dig down before getting any momentum to move. Many run paddles on just the rear, steering with paddles on the front is pretty vague in my experience. Crusty snow that supports the rig (and knobby tires) is my favorite as long as it isn't covered in slick ice. We just had 6 inches of powder, then rain and warm. If it freezes now, should be perfect, crusty, textured snow.
I still have a pair of Proline 2.2 ST Sand Paws from the mid nineties. Bought them for sand running with my Losi GTX 2WD nitro stadium truck. Still have the Losi as well, 2 actually. Haven't seen the light of day in 20 years.+1
In keeping with proper diameter of all 4 wheels pn 4WD setup, I have seen some guys Reverse the rotation of the paddles in the front for that reason. I myself always left them rotating correctly. I was never a fan of paddles. Except with RWD models Myself. And only in the sand when when I did. Paddles have been around forever in RC. The really can burden the electrics and the drivetrain. But if the snow is something you like, these are the only best option.
Sounds about right I'd say.IMO, paddle tires can help up to a point, but ultimately you are limited by the depth of snow. I would frequently run my Summit in the snow. Even with locked diffs, trying out low gear/high gear, and the amazing articulation and ground clearance it has, it still struggled beyond 5+ inches of fresh powder snow.
At some point, the deep powdery snow basically starts to basically feel like nothing more than a "dense fog" to an RC. I've run several trucks in various scales in the powdery snow -- I feel like i'd section RCs off in this way for POWDER snow:
< 2 inches: 1/10 scale
2-4 inches: 1/10 scale with heavy mods (power/paddles) and 1/8 scale
4-6 inches: 1/6 or 1/5 scale
6-7 inches: 1/5 scale with mods
7+ inches: Raminator
I have both, and I'd say the dumonts are at least as effective as the slingshots.Unfortunately, those are discontinued but I'm pretty sure the ProLine Dumonts would be almost as effective. Rooster tails await you my friend.
Some fun in a light dusting of snow is about as far as I will go, if at all.Yeah, snow bashing is limited for me. I enjoy it, but too deep or fluffy kinda ruins it. Plus the constant, or near constant full throttle is hell on electronics/batteries.. paddles will keep it moving, but if you stop in deep snow, they just dig down before getting any momentum to move. Many run paddles on just the rear, steering with paddles on the front is pretty vague in my experience. Crusty snow that supports the rig (and knobby tires) is my favorite as long as it isn't covered in slick ice. We just had 6 inches of powder, then rain and warm. If it freezes now, should be perfect, crusty, textured snow.
I figured as much but the angle fin design and the fact that they're narrower, makes me think they wouldn't stay on top of the soft stuff like the wide finned Slingshots. The only reason I don't have Dumonts (yet) is because my Slingshots are in great shape. Of the two sets I have, one wheel is damaged on the inside thin wall, but some CA and Gorilla tape has kept it alive for two seasons. That's probably where the Dumonts would be better also. Not as wide so probably take some decent jumps better and without crackingI have both, and I'd say the dumonts are at least as effective as the slingshots.
Yeah you should not stop. Need to keep rolling.Sounds about right I'd say.
Momentum is key, just like a snowmobile in deep powder or even water skiing..slow too much, and it's over. I 3d printed some huge (about 8") paddle tires and wheels. Put them on my Kaiju, which was all I really had to try them on at the time. They did great. I ran it over 15" of powder pretty easily. When time to turn though, needed alot of room since a minimum speed needs to be maintained to stay "on top" of the snow. Of course with just a 4068 sized motor, it was "doin work" LOL. I ended up shattering a wheel hub on a sideways landing. Took forever to print them, so gave up after that.. 3 are still good, maybe I'll revisit. The K6 XL with a 4092 I have would certainly fair better, at least for power. I think the Xmaxx is my favorite for deep snow though, huge tires, lightweight. I don't have paddles for it though..
Ran those same exact PL paddles. RC10T's and My 2 Nitro GT's. Running Nitros in the snow is daunting. Especially when the Clutch and slipper get all wet.I still have a pair of Proline 2.2 ST Sand Paws from the mid nineties. Bought them for sand running with my Losi GTX 2WD nitro stadium truck. Still have the Losi as well, 2 actually. Haven't seen the light of day in 20 years.
I have however used the Sand Paws on my 2wd Bandit and Rustlers in the snow. Anything over an inch or two, forget it. Insufficient ground clearance.
My bro has RC10GT. I went Losi, just to be different. The RC10GT was way more durable. He still has it. The Sand Paws I have are mounted on HPI wheels. Also have PL Dirt Paws from that era, they're pretty beat though. A bin full of Losi 2.2 ST tires on dish wheels too. Nope wet centrifugal clutches don't work very well,LOL.Yeah you should not stop. Need to keep rolling.
Or you end up digging in stuck on your belly. Just like with scale vehicles.
Ran those same exact PL paddles. RC10T's and My 2 Nitro GT's. Running Nitros in the snow is daunting. Especially when the Clutch and slipper get all wet.
They have since all dry rotted out and I tossed them a few years ago. I kept the RPM Vector wheels. They are vintage by now. RPM doesn't make wheels anymore.
Paddles are paddles. IMO.I have both, and I'd say the dumonts are at least as effective as the slingshots.
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