What does everyone think of the New Outcast and Kraton 8S Trucks

[Adamj804]

They look great, interested in the Outcast.

https://www.towerhobbies.com/new-release/?clickpath=campaign-new-release-homepage-category-tile

 

[KnowAir]

Ah.. we knew it was coming. The 5687 HW is certainly a nice upgrade. Price not bad either TBH. Not sure what all else has been upgraded?

 

[StephenSchandelmayer]

Dang the bodies look even better now, that outcast body is just the greatest design

 

[KnowAir]

I'm kinda shocked they put a bigger motor in, EXB AND it's only $1k.. the bodies look like "angry birds" to me but, who cares, they'll be trashed in no time anyways..well, mine would
I'd like the Kraton with BF tires and wheels..
I've always thought the Outcast was the better lookin of the two, still is, but I prefer a longer wheelbase personally.

 

[StephenSchandelmayer]

Looks like they added a lot more tread to the backflips

 

[dure16]

Looks like they added a lot more tread to the backflips
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Good catch. Hopefully they’re a little more rigid.

 

[Dutch]

Looks like they added a lot more tread to the backflips
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Looking at the spec sheet the tires are listed as Big Block dBoots® Copperhead 2 tires on the Kraton and big block dBoots® Back-Flip BB tires on the Outcast

 

[KnowAir]

Looks like they added a lot more tread to the backflips
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I thought so too, there's mention of that on the Tower site. There's a listing for "dboots Back-Flip Big Block MT Tires", $86.99 a pair!?
I'm glad to see they didn't "leach" these out to the "influencers " first this time.. I hate when companies "dangle the fruit" .. look at what you can't get..

 

[KnowAir]

I've noticed all 3 versions of the BF tires have different tread patterns..looks like the new 8s has the same pattern as the 6s now..

 

[Hector_Fisher]

Never owned an 8s kraton/outcast, but was the chassis always 5mm? Looks to have a decent stock servo that's 8.4v capable. And the 6mm shock shafts look beefy.

The question is: do you think they solved all the issues the first gen had?

 

[305HemiGuy]

I really like the more aggressive front end/grille. Surprised they were able to keep this thing at $999.00.

 

[RCbuzz]

These look great! I really like how both bodies are so different yet have such a great style to them. Arrma body design are definitely a plus in my book!

I have not had any issues with the EXB shocks, nor the BLX shocks (after the shock piston mod), I hope the driveshafts are slightly "more" hardened and that they do a better job shimming the diff's out of the box.

The black colored Firma 160 V2 .. Curious on the V2 since the OG has been a great ESC.

 

[Surchaufeur]

Looks like they added a lot more tread to the backflips
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But same part number?

Never owned an 8s kraton/outcast, but was the chassis always 5mm? Looks to have a decent stock servo that's 8.4v capable. And the 6mm shock shafts look beefy.

The question is: do you think they solved all the issues the first gen had?

The exb was 5 mm the rtr had 4mm 6061 i believe
My main issue for me is its internal issues have not been adressed. Like the diff cases with odd size screws who causes problems. but now u can get a RTR with full of upgrades for the price of the old RTR who had nothing going for it. Or did the price go up?

 

[Ray87]

Would it not be better to have this post under the 8s arrma forum?

Great truck and good news, competition is really a good thing, now this trucks would make the xrt and x maxx looks weak out of the box, with the improved servo and the bigger motor it going to be what most expect and want, no need to upgrade this unless you want even bigger motor system.

I want the motor, body and chassis for my v1 k8s. Wonder how this v2 spectrum esc would be compared to v1 paired with the 5687 motor, and what gearing it comes with. Must check some exploded views.

 

[KnowAir]

But same part number?

The exb was 5 mm the rtr had 4mm 6061 i believe
My main issue for me is its internal issues have not been adressed. Like the diff cases with odd size screws who causes problems. but now u can get a RTR with full of upgrades for the price of the old RTR who had nothing going for it. Or did the price go up?

I think the new tires have a new part number? Definitely a new price.
Pre-order at $999. That's same as old rtr.. it's definitely a step in the right direction considering what the rest of the RC industry has been doing, such as an extended wheelbase slash for $530!? I know, it has super deluxe expialidocious suspension parts and Maxx plastic driveshafts so, totally worth it, not!!

 

[razorrc]

The price is good, but other than that seems basically the same as before.

 

[KnowAir]

The price is good, but other than that seems basically the same as before.

Yeah, minor tweaks.. should easily outpace a TRX 8s now though, of course that comes at the expense of even shorter run times.. gotta take the bad with the good I suppose. Assuming one wants that.

 

[305HemiGuy]

After further research, I'd like to add to my initial thoughts...this truck is really just more of the same. I really would've liked for Arrma to introduce an all new vehicle. The biggest upgrades made to this truck so far seem to be the servo, esc, and motor. As others have posted above me, they didn't address many of the other underlying issues that these rigs have. Like I said earlier, I'm glad they were able to still keep it at it's "normal" price point with the way inflation is running rampant these days. If that was Traxxas they would've for sure tacked on an extra $200.

 

[Cuzboss]

Tell you one thing, I still have my RTR OC8S original (red body) and I love the thing. I do take care of it because I got it when they were on sale for half off, but the red body still looks better to me than the new one and the old EXB. Something about that red metallic. Anyway, ill probably end up getting a new EXB just because. ARRMA is really doing a great job and not price gouging everytime a new version comes out unlike other brands…

 

[Surchaufeur]

Tell you one thing, I still have my RTR OC8S original (red body) and I love the thing. I do take care of it because I got it when they were on sale for half off, but the red body still looks better to me than the new one and the old EXB. Something about that red metallic. Anyway, ill probably end up getting a new EXB just because. ARRMA is really doing a great job and not price gouging everytime a new version comes out unlike other brands…

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