I just got the 8s kraton and thought I wouldn't run my 6s cars again but its not the case with me. no what you mean about the 6s cars been like kids toys though. to be honest I still prefer to run the 6s cars over the 8s at the moment think its cause there easier to lug aroundTry the 4s backflip LP's. Also..coming from someone who has both 6s and 8s rigs, it's hard to go from 8s to 6s when running mine. It literally makes the smaller rigs feel like a kids toy. I ALWAYS run my smaller rigs first then the 8s rigs. I know some guys that can't go back to smaller rigs at all after going big