Nemesis3
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I am looking into getting a large scale electric RC. When my buddies and I used to race in fields one of the factors that usually helped the most was just having a larger vehicle. Most of my RC experience comes from close to two decades ago. I am once again living where I have more space to enjoy it.
So far I have looked at Losi DBXL-E ver 2, Kraton 8s and Xmaxx.
I know they all have their design strengths/weaknesses and questions like “which is best” is akin to asking “boat or car?” The response might involve “ummm, water or land?”
Said another way, giving advice all depends on what the user is going to do with the RC and what they plan to do with aftermarket upgrades.
Purpose/place I plan to use this specific RC for:
Mostly: Racing in large fields
Secondly: backyard bashing
Rest: occasional drag race dirt/grass
Even less: Asphalt drag racing.
So for me it’s acceleration, handling, and braking and top speed. Staying on on all four tires through the turns or staying planted on all and accelerating vs wheeling when the throttled is nailed. The plan is to start off with mild enough oval tracks but advance on to one’s where I don’t want to have to fight the RC vehicles characteristics not matching the task along with the difficulty of the “track.” However all just friendly racing with some buddies at the end of the day.
DBXL. Heaviest stock. Fastest I believe out of the box, maybe best stock drag racer. I have heard braking and turning issues. One source specifically was from Earl Moorhead’s videos . Granted that is a sample size of one on the DBXL but I think I have seen both braking and handling mentioned elsewhere.
Xmaxx: Lightest. Cheapest and most widely available replacement parts. Maybe the most bash aimed stock out of the box. In videos I saw a that a non feathered throttle input had a response to wheelie and that it had a tendency to rollover in corners from what I recall were stock RCs. I believe the design is more aimed at bashing and stunts versus racing/drag racing.
Kraton: Low center of gravity, wide stance. Second heaviest stock. From the videos I have seen I believe the handling might be the best of the three. Maybe the best field racer out of the box depending on the severity of braking/turning/handling involved in the track.
I mentioned weight but not whether it is a pro or con and that’s because that it isn’t always one or the other from my belief. That is more weight is more mass to try and accelerate and more mass to try and slow down thus a con. However it is also from what I have seen helpful in plowing through smaller ruts, grass etc like they aren’t there and perhaps when nudged by another RC more likely to stay the course. This is of course on the level of changes up in scale size versus the 5-10lb variations (not insignificant in 20-30lb vehicles) in the three discussed. Extra weight might also help allow an RC to have plenty of torque or acceleration but stay on all four tires during heavy throttle input. I can’t say as to what percentage the weight differences involved plays into some of these factors or how much it is just size and speed.
I know nothing replaces personal hands on experience but given no LHS that isn’t an option. I appreciate your thoughts as to the best RC for my given purpose and even more so from those that own/have owned two or all three.
***Disclaimer: (likely you can skip reading this if at all rational and hopefully it is completely unnecessary.)
To those that get easily offended by discussion. My above assessment of these three specific RCs is from forums and lots of YouTube videos. A lot of those videos from some members on here. Mostly it is about stock characteristics of each of the RCs as I could ascertain from videos. Yes, I realize with aftermarket modifications these things can change. No need to grab any holy brand name armor and sword to fight the righteous battle. Don’t put on your wizard robe and hat. Just let me talk for a second to the other weird folks who -obviously erroneously- don’t think exactly the same as you. Just a few words with those that haven’t seen the light that nuanced opinions and detailed discussion of specifics is useless in light of the awesomeness of the one true RC king. I readily admit whatever RC(s) you bought is/are absolutely the right choice regardless of task and yes it could whip a T-Rex, stop Hitler, jump the Grand Canyon in reverse without a scratch and outrun a space shuttle all while in lvc.
****End disclaimer.
So far I have looked at Losi DBXL-E ver 2, Kraton 8s and Xmaxx.
I know they all have their design strengths/weaknesses and questions like “which is best” is akin to asking “boat or car?” The response might involve “ummm, water or land?”
Said another way, giving advice all depends on what the user is going to do with the RC and what they plan to do with aftermarket upgrades.
Purpose/place I plan to use this specific RC for:
Mostly: Racing in large fields
Secondly: backyard bashing
Rest: occasional drag race dirt/grass
Even less: Asphalt drag racing.
So for me it’s acceleration, handling, and braking and top speed. Staying on on all four tires through the turns or staying planted on all and accelerating vs wheeling when the throttled is nailed. The plan is to start off with mild enough oval tracks but advance on to one’s where I don’t want to have to fight the RC vehicles characteristics not matching the task along with the difficulty of the “track.” However all just friendly racing with some buddies at the end of the day.
DBXL. Heaviest stock. Fastest I believe out of the box, maybe best stock drag racer. I have heard braking and turning issues. One source specifically was from Earl Moorhead’s videos . Granted that is a sample size of one on the DBXL but I think I have seen both braking and handling mentioned elsewhere.
Xmaxx: Lightest. Cheapest and most widely available replacement parts. Maybe the most bash aimed stock out of the box. In videos I saw a that a non feathered throttle input had a response to wheelie and that it had a tendency to rollover in corners from what I recall were stock RCs. I believe the design is more aimed at bashing and stunts versus racing/drag racing.
Kraton: Low center of gravity, wide stance. Second heaviest stock. From the videos I have seen I believe the handling might be the best of the three. Maybe the best field racer out of the box depending on the severity of braking/turning/handling involved in the track.
I mentioned weight but not whether it is a pro or con and that’s because that it isn’t always one or the other from my belief. That is more weight is more mass to try and accelerate and more mass to try and slow down thus a con. However it is also from what I have seen helpful in plowing through smaller ruts, grass etc like they aren’t there and perhaps when nudged by another RC more likely to stay the course. This is of course on the level of changes up in scale size versus the 5-10lb variations (not insignificant in 20-30lb vehicles) in the three discussed. Extra weight might also help allow an RC to have plenty of torque or acceleration but stay on all four tires during heavy throttle input. I can’t say as to what percentage the weight differences involved plays into some of these factors or how much it is just size and speed.
I know nothing replaces personal hands on experience but given no LHS that isn’t an option. I appreciate your thoughts as to the best RC for my given purpose and even more so from those that own/have owned two or all three.
***Disclaimer: (likely you can skip reading this if at all rational and hopefully it is completely unnecessary.)
To those that get easily offended by discussion. My above assessment of these three specific RCs is from forums and lots of YouTube videos. A lot of those videos from some members on here. Mostly it is about stock characteristics of each of the RCs as I could ascertain from videos. Yes, I realize with aftermarket modifications these things can change. No need to grab any holy brand name armor and sword to fight the righteous battle. Don’t put on your wizard robe and hat. Just let me talk for a second to the other weird folks who -obviously erroneously- don’t think exactly the same as you. Just a few words with those that haven’t seen the light that nuanced opinions and detailed discussion of specifics is useless in light of the awesomeness of the one true RC king. I readily admit whatever RC(s) you bought is/are absolutely the right choice regardless of task and yes it could whip a T-Rex, stop Hitler, jump the Grand Canyon in reverse without a scratch and outrun a space shuttle all while in lvc.
****End disclaimer.