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GUYS... Can we agree that both the X-maxx and the Kraton are both horrible and nobody should buy either of them and be done with it??? Maybe we should just all go out and get Tamiya gear?
If I could bring the topic back around before @WoodiE buries this and try and salvage some of the good information given so far for other people...
Yeah there is a level of impatience on my side too here. I could wait until next year and probably play with an 8s Kraton but that isn't quite an option right now.
Looking at all the youtube clips of the Kraton vs X-maxx and you can see the handling difference and "Agility" of the newer truck. Which is absolutely to be expected given the LCG truggy vs montster truck layouts.
For me there is a debate as they are similarly priced trucks that perform a similar function and at a similar scale. I agree they are different but I really don't have a preference on the type. I love my 1/10 BRCC and also what arrma represents as a company and so far it has been awesome despite the issues I have. Never tried Traxxas more becasue I see them everywhere and like to be different... I am mostly interested in the scale as a 1/5 anything just seems like a good bit of fun no matter what I get.
If the price was the same (or comparable) in Australia and the parts availabilty was a thing (or at minimum avaialble) then it would almost be a no-brainer for the kraton as I acknowledge it is the newer, fancier better engineered truck...
I respect someone that is able to change their opinion if they get more informaiton about something they don't like... It just makes sense... That's kind of why I made this thread as I can't be the only one in this position...
Second hand trucks are going for around the $800-$900 mark sometimes with a few batteries which may or may not be good... A new one is in the $1100-$1200 on a good sale day so is it almost worth the new price just to have some form of warranty... Also what are some common things to look out for on any RC car when 2nd hand...
What would the "Usual" upgrades be just so I can get a decent idea?
I agree with your point about V1 vs V2...
I have no delusions about the X-maxx being this mythical unbreakable beast that can survive the apocalypse. I get that it will break as will the Kraton. Neither of them are bullet proof but on the whole I think the plastic vs metal debate has good arguments on both sides...
If I could bring the topic back around before @WoodiE buries this and try and salvage some of the good information given so far for other people...
It's such a shame that there's no easy way for people to just take both for a quick and tame spin before purchase. This would especially be great for those of us who aren't brand loyalists. For example when I was shopping for a full sized truck a few years ago I stopped by the Chevrolet, the Ford and the Ram dealership to take each offering for a spin. Similarly, when I'm shopping for a new bicycle I take various bikes for a quick ride. In no case was I trying to drift a F150 around a dirt road bend at 60 MPH or launch a Trek off a loading dock - I just needed a taste. Too bad people can't drive a X-Maxx and then drive a Kraton 8S back-to-back for a reasonable spin in a hardpack dirt lot.
Sadly I wonder if I'll ultimately answer the question the same way I did with the ol' Kraton 6S vs. Traxxas Maxx debate - get both.
Yeah there is a level of impatience on my side too here. I could wait until next year and probably play with an 8s Kraton but that isn't quite an option right now.
Looking at all the youtube clips of the Kraton vs X-maxx and you can see the handling difference and "Agility" of the newer truck. Which is absolutely to be expected given the LCG truggy vs montster truck layouts.
There is NO debate.
STOP COMPARING THE X MAXX TO THE KRATON! seriously, it is a bad comparison. Do you compare a real life monster truck to a real life pre-runner or Baja 1000 ??? An Internet forum is here to share opinion absolutely and I respect everyone’s on here. That said, there has to be at least A LITTLE tact and insight used here.
Xmaxx buyers you won’t want the Kraton over the Xmaxx and vice versa. It’s the same way that a Revo buyer won’t care for a Truggy and vice versa. Do you compare Asian women with black women? Apples to oranges?
For me there is a debate as they are similarly priced trucks that perform a similar function and at a similar scale. I agree they are different but I really don't have a preference on the type. I love my 1/10 BRCC and also what arrma represents as a company and so far it has been awesome despite the issues I have. Never tried Traxxas more becasue I see them everywhere and like to be different... I am mostly interested in the scale as a 1/5 anything just seems like a good bit of fun no matter what I get.
If the price was the same (or comparable) in Australia and the parts availabilty was a thing (or at minimum avaialble) then it would almost be a no-brainer for the kraton as I acknowledge it is the newer, fancier better engineered truck...
That is a wise move if you don't like what you see online. I also think Youtube can also be a bit biased as people are more interested in the broken bits and everyone is so keen to jump on any issue. Myself included... Seeing a few bent chassis and parts does make me question if a $1K truck is the right choice for me...LOL, Arrma Tough! Not sooooooooo tough for what I seen so far. I just watch couples of video from youtube. I call my local hobby shop today and said I want my deposit back and cancel my order.
I respect someone that is able to change their opinion if they get more informaiton about something they don't like... It just makes sense... That's kind of why I made this thread as I can't be the only one in this position...
While all the kids whine i'll try to answer the OP's question, somebody has to do it
In your case i would by a second hand X-Maxx and install all the usual upgrades.
The Kraton 8s is a V1 and from the past we learned V2's are always better.
Also parts availability is important if you break stuff. And you will (both X-Maxx and Kraton).
There you go kids, that wasn't so hard?
Second hand trucks are going for around the $800-$900 mark sometimes with a few batteries which may or may not be good... A new one is in the $1100-$1200 on a good sale day so is it almost worth the new price just to have some form of warranty... Also what are some common things to look out for on any RC car when 2nd hand...
What would the "Usual" upgrades be just so I can get a decent idea?
I agree with your point about V1 vs V2...
I don't know Some of them will still say the PLASTIC X-Maxx will survive lawn dart, running into a tree, & slamming into rocks. What is this mythical beast, & where can I get one. They certainly can't be any of the 3 I have. It is called X-Maxx, right. Cuz the trucks I have will break running on level ground. I can bend the driveshaft on a wheelie & strip a front diff on the way down. Again, what is this mythical beast
I have no delusions about the X-maxx being this mythical unbreakable beast that can survive the apocalypse. I get that it will break as will the Kraton. Neither of them are bullet proof but on the whole I think the plastic vs metal debate has good arguments on both sides...